dbt clone command #3742

graciegoheen · 2023-07-14T00:06:48Z

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Add docs for new dbt clone command

Closes #3607

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add more of the narrative around "why"/ use cases / places where cloud shines
add versioning components to the project-state page
add to https://docs.getdbt.com/docs/deploy/slim-ci-jobs page
ensure i've created links correctly

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runleonarun

Hey @graciegoheen just two tiny link fixes to fix your staging preview. We use the document root which starts with /docs or /reference or /guides.

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

website/docs/reference/node-selection/syntax.md

jtcohen6

nice solid start!!

I'd also like to see something in the docs on deferral: when/why would I use deferral versus cloning? Where are there two separate approaches to achieving the same end? (see internal notion thread)

website/docs/reference/node-selection/syntax.md

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

Co-authored-by: Leona B. Campbell <[email protected]>

Co-authored-by: Jeremy Cohen <[email protected]>

aranke

Great start, thanks for taking this on @graciegoheen!

website/docs/reference/node-selection/syntax.md

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

aranke · 2023-07-14T15:01:46Z

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

+- Otherwise, dbt will create a simple pointer view (`select * from` the other object)
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+Note: 
+- The state to clone from is based on the location of nodes in the manifest provided to `--state`.


Something else to note here is that you cannot use the same target directory for both the source and target due to <placeholder>.

Will it literally not allow the target and source to be the same? Or would it yield surprising results?

How is something like this typically called out in the docs @runleonarun

@graciegoheen I would add this tidbit as a sentence in the very first paragraph. Maybe by rephrasing as what you should do instead of what you shouldn't, for example:

The dbt clone command clones selected nodes from the specified state to the target schema(s). You must always use different directories for source and target otherwise you will get an error message/overwrite the source. This command makes use of the clone materialization:

(hopefully you just get an error @aranke??)

You get a very weird error that source and target states are the same, and so it's a no-op.

I ran into this during local development, so think this warning needs to be surfaced loudly.

Sounds like we want a dbt-core follow-on issue?

^ yes and add callout to the docs? or yes then we don't need this callout?

I'd say "yes, and" — then when the issue is closed, we can remove the callout from the docs

docs are updated - @dbeatty10 or @aranke are one of y'all able to open up a core issue to improve the error message?

@graciegoheen I just now opened a minimal issue here: dbt-labs/dbt-core#8160

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

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website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

graciegoheen · 2023-07-18T00:54:32Z

nice solid start!!

I'd also like to see something in the docs on deferral: when/why would I use deferral versus cloning? Where are there two separate approaches to achieving the same end? (see internal notion thread)

@jtcohen6 were you imagining this callout be added to the defer docs, or to the clone docs, or to both? or a new page altogether?

jtcohen6 · 2023-07-18T10:14:20Z

@jtcohen6 were you imagining this callout be added to the defer docs, or to the clone docs, or to both? or a new page altogether?

How about this:

A sentence addition to the "defer" page, stating that cloning is an alternative to deferral and links to the "clone" command page
A slightly longer addition (paragraph) on the "clone" command page: "When would I use cloning instead of deferral?" Deferral is the feature that's more established (been around for longer), and at first glance it offers a strictly better/cheaper alternative to clone (which requires some compute + creation of more DWH objects), but has its own advantages worth explaining/considering

mirnawong1 · 2023-07-18T16:29:11Z

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

+- You may want to specify a higher number of [threads](/docs/running-a-dbt-project/using-threads) to decrease execution time since individual clone statements are independent of one another.
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+The `clone` command is useful for:
+- blue/green continuous deployment


would it be helpful to link to this so there's context? is that the right link?

yes, good call! that's a fairly old post at this point, but until we have a newer one, it's good to provide some definition/context

How do we feel about this being a snowflake-specific article? I think blue/green continuous blue/green deployment will be different depending on the warehouse being used (zero copy cloning vs. pointer views)

Even better point. Blue/green is really only enabled by table clones. There's also ~~hackery~~ cleverness in that post around overriding ref so that when the schemas get swapped, the views stay pointed to the same database.

Maybe better to skip it for now, and just say something like:

blue/green continuous deployment (on data warehouses that support cloning tables)

Or remove the bullet entirely, until we have a more up-to-date and thorough dev blog article that we could link to

Just updated - let me know what you think

aranke · 2023-07-18T18:37:46Z

@jtcohen6 were you imagining this callout be added to the defer docs, or to the clone docs, or to both? or a new page altogether?

To-do for @dbeatty10 and I: link to blog post highlighting differences when that's ready

jtcohen6

One small comment (I changed my mind about the source/target mismatch error) -- then this lgtm!

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

jtcohen6 · 2023-07-18T21:19:58Z

website/docs/reference/commands/clone.md

+For example, by creating actual data warehouse objects, `dbt clone` allows you to test out your code changes on downstream dependencies _outside of dbt_ (such as a BI tool). 
+
+As another example, you could `clone` your modified incremental models as the first step of your dbt Cloud CI job to prevent costly `full-refresh` builds for warehouses that support zero-copy cloning.


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Revise v1.6 migration guide #3728

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		For example, by creating actual data warehouse objects, `dbt clone` allows you to test out your code changes on downstream dependencies _outside of dbt_ (such as a BI tool).

		As another example, you could `clone` your modified incremental models as the first step of your dbt Cloud CI job to prevent costly `full-refresh` builds for warehouses that support zero-copy cloning.

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