可否将文内引用作者的逗号改为 "and" ？ #230

earthmoon · 2023-10-12T02:57:33Z

earthmoon
Oct 12, 2023

你好，

比如，在refs.bib 输入

@article{wu2013,
  title = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}: {{The}} Largest Freshwater Lake in {{China}}},
  shorttitle = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Liu, Xia and Xu, Cai Ping and Chen, Yuwei and Zhang, Lu},
  date = {2013-09},
  journaltitle = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  shortjournal = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  volume = {39},
  number = {3},
  pages = {476--483},
  issn = {03801330},
  doi = {10.1016/j.jglr.2013.06.008},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
}

@article{wu2018c,
  title = {Spatial and Temporal Heterogeneities in Water Quality and Their Potential Drivers in {{Lake Poyang}} ({{China}}) from 2009 to 2015},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Zhang, Lu and Chen, Yuwei},
  date = {2018-03},
  journaltitle = {Limnologica},
  shortjournal = {Limnologica},
  volume = {69},
  pages = {115--124},
  issn = {00759511},
  doi = {10.1016/j.limno.2017.12.001},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
}

@article{wu2018d,
  title = {Assessing River Water Quality Using Water Quality Index in {{Lake Taihu Basin}}, {{China}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Wang, Xiaolong and Chen, Yuwei and Cai, Yongjiu and Deng, Jiancai},
  date = {2018-01},
  journaltitle = {Science of The Total Environment},
  shortjournal = {Science of The Total Environment},
  volume = {612},
  pages = {914--922},
  issn = {00489697},
  doi = {10.1016/j.scitotenv.2017.08.293},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
}

在chapter1.tex 输入
\citep{wu2013,wu2018c,wu2018d}

最后输出结果为

感觉两姓之间以逗号区分很少见，有没有办法把逗号改为 and？

改成and合适还是应该改成 Wu, 2018a; Wu, 2018b？

谢谢！

Answered by hushidong

Oct 12, 2023

国标默认要求是第一个作者姓即可。

加一个选项uniquelist=false就可以强制只显示第一个作者了。

如果不强制，则使用本地化字符做修改，可以设置任意的连接符号，比如这里使用&符号，也可以改成and等等：

\DefineBibliographyStrings{english}{
        andincite         = {\&},
        andincitecn       = {和},
}

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hushidong · 2023-10-12T14:26:36Z

hushidong
Oct 12, 2023

国标默认要求是第一个作者姓即可。

加一个选项uniquelist=false就可以强制只显示第一个作者了。

如果不强制，则使用本地化字符做修改，可以设置任意的连接符号，比如这里使用&符号，也可以改成and等等：

\DefineBibliographyStrings{english}{
        andincite         = {\&},
        andincitecn       = {和},
}

4 replies

earthmoon Oct 13, 2023
Author

非常谢谢！

earthmoon Oct 13, 2023
Author

您好，

我采用了第一章方法，即uniquelist=false，但是年份后面会附上a或者b之类的标识符，这是对的。但是这个a、b的顺序是由文末的参考文献排序确定的，这时候是不是应该以文内引用的顺序进行排序？

比如输入引用第一篇\citep{wu2018d}，引用第二篇\citep{wu2018c}，输出为，

是不是应该文末参考文献顺序也调整，

这样文内就会变成，

这种效果。

hushidong Oct 14, 2023

这个问题目前解决不了，因为extradate目前是按文献表中的条目顺序生成的，所以文献表中按a,b的顺序生成后，引用标签中的a，b就会对应过来。目前的情况是：若要按引用的顺序来标记，a,b,那么就要要求文献表根据引用顺序来排序。这样文献表中的排序就不是默认的按照作者信息排序了。

当然如果做一些特殊的处理，可以让引用和文献表中能够都根据各自的顺序来输出a，b但这种情况会导致引用和文献表中的a，b不对应。比如：

代码：

% !Mode:: "TeX:UTF-8"
% 用于测试gb7714-2015样式，对于作者姓名格式的控制和选项
% 测试gbnamefmt选项
% 测试bib文件中的nameformat域
\documentclass[twoside]{article}
\usepackage{ctex}
\usepackage{xcolor}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{geometry}

\usepackage[backend=biber,style=gb7714-2015ay,uniquelist=false,
%maxbibnames=1,minbibnames=1,
%sorting=none,
nohashothers=true,nosortothers=true]{biblatex}


\begin{filecontents}[force]{\jobname.bib}
@article{wu2013,
  title = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}: {{The}} Largest Freshwater Lake in {{China}}},
  shorttitle = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Liu, Xia and Xu, Cai Ping and Chen, Yuwei and Zhang, Lu},
  date = {2013-09},
  journaltitle = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  shortjournal = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  volume = {39},
  number = {3},
  pages = {476--483},
  issn = {03801330},
  doi = {10.1016/j.jglr.2013.06.008},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
}

@article{wu2018c,
  title = {Spatial and Temporal Heterogeneities in Water Quality and Their Potential Drivers in {{Lake Poyang}} ({{China}}) from 2009 to 2015},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Zhang, Lu and Chen, Yuwei},
  date = {2018-03},
  journaltitle = {Limnologica},
  shortjournal = {Limnologica},
  volume = {69},
  pages = {115--124},
  issn = {00759511},
  doi = {10.1016/j.limno.2017.12.001},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
  extradate={2}
}

@article{wu2018d,
  title = {Assessing River Water Quality Using Water Quality Index in {{Lake Taihu Basin}}, {{China}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Wang, Xiaolong and Chen, Yuwei and Cai, Yongjiu and Deng, Jiancai},
  date = {2018-01},
  journaltitle = {Science of The Total Environment},
  shortjournal = {Science of The Total Environment},
  volume = {612},
  pages = {914--922},
  issn = {00489697},
  doi = {10.1016/j.scitotenv.2017.08.293},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
  extradate={1}
}

\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}


\begin{document}

\cite{wu2013}

比如输入引用第一篇\citep{wu2018d}，

引用第二篇\citep{wu2018c}



\printbibliography


{\color{white} \rule {1pt}{1pt}
\hbox to 0pt {\vbox to 0pt {\newrefcontext[sorting=none]\printbibliography}}}



 \end{document}

但这也不是理想的情况。

这个问题也是可以解决的，不过要biblatex那边来解决，你可以到biblatex那边去提issue。两种方法：

(1) 人为在bib中设置extradate域，这就要求biblatex那边不自动生成或覆盖extradate

(2) 让biblatex按照引用的顺序生成extradate，而不是按照文献表顺序来生成。比如可以增加一个选项来选择extradate的根据选项来设置生成的来源。

还有一个问题是，即便是实现了你的要求，extradate按引用顺序排，但在文献表中就会出现b在a前的情况，这也不是一个很理想的情况。

所以，我觉得你还是用默认的方式来处理更合理。引用中b在a前不容易被质疑，但在文献表中b在a前容易被质疑说没处理好排序。

earthmoon Oct 14, 2023
Author

谢谢！

想了下这个问题的根源。当我们用第一作者+年+英文字母对文末参考文献表进行排序，这时候文末参考文献表进行排序应该针对这种情况只使用第一作者排序，然后再以年后的英文字母排序。只有对不是第一作者+年+英文字母的文献，才考虑添加第二作者进行排序。年之后的a、b、c这些已经是排序序号了，不使用第二作者进行排序应当可以理解吧。

如果能针对第一作者+年+英文字母的文献进行区分，从而只是用第一作者排序，再使用a、b、c这些排序，这个问题是不是可以解决了？这个有可能实现吗？因为很多期刊论文的文献顺序应该是按照这个规则的。

hushidong · 2023-10-14T03:33:28Z

hushidong
Oct 14, 2023

可以的，比如：

% !Mode:: "TeX:UTF-8"
% 用于测试gb7714-2015样式，对于作者姓名格式的控制和选项
% 测试gbnamefmt选项
% 测试bib文件中的nameformat域
\documentclass[twoside]{article}
\usepackage{ctex}
\usepackage{xcolor}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{geometry}

\usepackage[backend=biber,style=gb7714-2015ay,uniquelist=false,
%maxbibnames=1,minbibnames=1,
%sorting=none,
nohashothers=true,nosortothers=true]{biblatex}

    \DeclareSortingTemplate{gb7714-2015}{
      \sort{
        \field{presort}
      }
      \sort{
    	\field{lansortorder}%language
    	}
      \sort{
        \field{sortkey}
      }
      \sort{%[direction=descending]
        \field{sortname}
      }
      \sort{
        \field{sortyear}
        \field{year}
      }
      \sort{
        \field{sorttitle}
        \field{title}
      }
      \sort{
        \field{volume}
        \literal{0}
      }
    }


\begin{filecontents}[force]{\jobname.bib}
@article{wu2013,
  title = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}: {{The}} Largest Freshwater Lake in {{China}}},
  shorttitle = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Liu, Xia and Xu, Cai Ping and Chen, Yuwei and Zhang, Lu},
  date = {2013-09},
  journaltitle = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  shortjournal = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  volume = {39},
  number = {3},
  pages = {476--483},
  issn = {03801330},
  doi = {10.1016/j.jglr.2013.06.008},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
}

@article{wu2018c,
  title = {Spatial and Temporal Heterogeneities in Water Quality and Their Potential Drivers in {{Lake Poyang}} ({{China}}) from 2009 to 2015},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Zhang, Lu and Chen, Yuwei},
  date = {2018-03},
  journaltitle = {Limnologica},
  shortjournal = {Limnologica},
  volume = {69},
  pages = {115--124},
  issn = {00759511},
  doi = {10.1016/j.limno.2017.12.001},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
  extradate={2}
}

@article{wu2018d,
  title = {Assessing River Water Quality Using Water Quality Index in {{Lake Taihu Basin}}, {{China}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Wang, Xiaolong and Chen, Yuwei and Cai, Yongjiu and Deng, Jiancai},
  date = {2018-01},
  journaltitle = {Science of The Total Environment},
  shortjournal = {Science of The Total Environment},
  volume = {612},
  pages = {914--922},
  issn = {00489697},
  doi = {10.1016/j.scitotenv.2017.08.293},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
  extradate={1}
}

\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}


\begin{document}

\cite{wu2013}

比如输入引用第一篇\citep{wu2018d}，

引用第二篇\citep{wu2018c}

\printbibliography




 \end{document}

结果为：

但这样处理，排序上可能会被质疑，因为w排到了C的前面。

2 replies

earthmoon Oct 14, 2023
Author

谢谢！

确实。这么说来，你之前给出了第二种方法反而更严谨。但是在第二种方法中，在武大的模板中运行会报错，这和武大模板设置有关。可否帮看下问题出在哪？

\documentclass{whu-thesis}
\whusetup
  {
    info               =
      {
        title          = {武汉大学学位论文 \LaTeX{} 模板\\使用示例文档},
        title*         = {An Introduction to LaTeX Thesis Template\\of Wuhan University},
        student-number = {xxxxxxxxxxxxx},
        school         = {院系名称},
        author         = {作者姓名},
        author*        = {Your Name},
        subject        = {学科},
        major          = {专业名称},
        advisor        = {教师姓名 , 职称},
        direction      = {研究方向},
        % date           = {2021/5},
        keywords       = {关键词 1 , 关键词 2 , 关键词 3 , 关键词 4 , 一个非常非常，非常非常长——的关键词 5},
        keywords*      = {key word 1 , key word 2 , key word 3 , key word 4 , {and a very very, very very long key word---the key word 5}},
      },
    style              =
      {
        graphics-path  = {{figures/}{data/}},
        list-of-figures,
        list-of-tables,
                bib-backend    = biblatex,
      },
    element            =
      {
        innovation     = {pages/innovation},
        abstract       = {pages/abstract},
        abstract*      = {pages/enabstract},
        bibliography   = {ref/refs.bib , ref/thu.bib},
        achievements   = {pages/achievements},
        thanks         = {pages/thanks},
        appendix       = {pages/appendix}
      }
  }
  
 \DefineBibliographyStrings{english}{
        andincite         = {\&},
        andincitecn       = {和},
}

\begin{document}

%%----------- 主体部分 ----------- %%
\include{pages/chapter1}
\include{pages/chapter2}
\include{pages/chapter3}
\include{pages/chapter4}
\end{document}

报错信息为

! Undefined control sequence.
l.43 \DefineBibliographyStrings
{english}{
?

hushidong Oct 14, 2023

这个你问一下模板作者，或查一下前面的issue，应该是模板把biblatex封装了，要修改biblatex的相关内容，可能需要在指定的位置或编组内。也就是\DefineBibliographyStrings这段不能放在这里，你看到是不是放到cls里面biblatex相关的位置，可以解决。

earthmoon · 2023-10-14T03:55:24Z

earthmoon
Oct 14, 2023
Author

好，谢谢！回去我试试！

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earthmoon · 2023-11-03T03:47:56Z

earthmoon
Nov 3, 2023
Author

哪位有时间研究下这些代码加在模板哪个位置合适？

\DefineBibliographyStrings{english}{
        andincite         = {\&},
        andincitecn       = {和},
}

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earthmoon May 18, 2024
Author

您好，我把您的代码里面的参考文献略作修改，发现文内的引用没有以出现次序而正确显示a,b,c

% !Mode:: "TeX:UTF-8"
% 用于测试gb7714-2015样式，对于作者姓名格式的控制和选项
% 测试gbnamefmt选项
% 测试bib文件中的nameformat域
\documentclass[twoside]{article}
\usepackage{ctex}
\usepackage{xcolor}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{geometry}

\usepackage[backend=biber,style=gb7714-2015ay,uniquelist=false,
%maxbibnames=1,minbibnames=1,
%sorting=none,
nohashothers=true,nosortothers=true]{biblatex}

    \DeclareSortingTemplate{gb7714-2015}{
      \sort{
        \field{presort}
      }
      \sort{
    	\field{lansortorder}%language
    	}
      \sort{
        \field{sortkey}
      }
      \sort{%[direction=descending]
        \field{sortname}
      }
      \sort{
        \field{sortyear}
        \field{year}
      }
      \sort{
        \field{sorttitle}
        \field{title}
      }
      \sort{
        \field{volume}
        \literal{0}
      }
    }


\begin{filecontents}[force]{\jobname.bib}
@article{wu2018t,
  title = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}: {{The}} Largest Freshwater Lake in {{China}}},
  shorttitle = {Temporal and Spatial Variability of Phytoplankton in {{Lake Poyang}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Liu, Xia and Xu, Cai Ping and Chen, Yuwei and Zhang, Lu},
  date = {2018-09},
  journaltitle = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  shortjournal = {Journal of Great Lakes Research},
  volume = {39},
  number = {3},
  pages = {476--483},
  issn = {03801330},
  doi = {10.1016/j.jglr.2013.06.008},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
}

@article{wu2018c,
  title = {Spatial and Temporal Heterogeneities in Water Quality and Their Potential Drivers in {{Lake Poyang}} ({{China}}) from 2009 to 2015},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Cai, Yongjiu and Zhang, Lu and Chen, Yuwei},
  date = {2018-03},
  journaltitle = {Limnologica},
  shortjournal = {Limnologica},
  volume = {69},
  pages = {115--124},
  issn = {00759511},
  doi = {10.1016/j.limno.2017.12.001},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
  extradate={2}
}

@article{wu2018d,
  title = {Assessing River Water Quality Using Water Quality Index in {{Lake Taihu Basin}}, {{China}}},
  author = {Wu, Zhaoshi and Wang, Xiaolong and Chen, Yuwei and Cai, Yongjiu and Deng, Jiancai},
  date = {2018-01},
  journaltitle = {Science of The Total Environment},
  shortjournal = {Science of The Total Environment},
  volume = {612},
  pages = {914--922},
  issn = {00489697},
  doi = {10.1016/j.scitotenv.2017.08.293},
  urldate = {2023-07-19},
  langid = {english},
  extradate={1}
}

\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}


\begin{document}

\cite{wu2018t}

比如输入引用第一篇\citep{wu2018d}，

引用第二篇\citep{wu2018c}

\printbibliography

 \end{document}

可以不可以实现这一点，把文末参考文献的第三篇放到第一篇，然后文内引用顺序对应调整。就是按照文献的出现次序进行编号，文末以第一作者的姓+年+字母进行排序。
谢谢！

earthmoon May 19, 2024
Author

该问题的解决请见 hushidong/biblatex-gb7714-2015#201 (comment)

zepinglee · 2024-05-18T15:18:07Z

zepinglee
May 18, 2024

关于 and 的问题，拉丁语“et al.”就是“and others”的意思，“A and B et al.”相当于两个“and”，不太符合西文的习惯。

另外可以参考 APA 的示例：https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/citations/basic-principles/same-year-first-author。

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earthmoon May 19, 2024
Author

您好，
您说的是对的，所以显示一个作者姓貌似更好。
谢谢！

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