Make MathML attributes ASCII case-insensitive

[fred-wang]

This is a follow-up of #22 ; we decided to follow HTML/CSS which treat things as ASCII case-insensitive. Concretely, ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/CaseFolding.txt has this line:

017F; C; 0073; # LATIN SMALL LETTER LONG S

which means that falſe is case-insensitively equal to false. However, it is not ASCII case-insensitively equal to false (only a-z <-> A-Z equivalence are considered in that case).

Currently, the MathML Core spec just says "case-insensitive".

Note: for CSS colors, I reported w3c/csswg-drafts#4599

[fred-wang]

I did a quick check and for the MathML-specific definitions, I only see case-insensitive against strings with ASCII letters and dashes. So the only difference would be for "LATIN SMALL LETTER LONG S", "KELVIN SIGN" and maybe a few "LATIN SMALL LIGATURE" (e.g. double-STruck). Unlikely for "LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH DOT ABOVE" if the Turkish rule is used. See w3c/csswg-drafts#4599 (comment)

[NSoiffer]

That's a good catch. I'm pretty sure we all agree that we only mean ASCII case-insensitivity. I suggest we add the following to the spec, which is a slight rewording from the HTML spec:

Many strings in the HTML and CSS syntax (e.g. the names of elements and their attributes) are case-insensitive, but only for ASCII upper alphas and ASCII lower alphas. For convenience, in this specification this is just referred to as "case-insensitive".

I suggest this goes into Appendix G.1: Document Conventions.

[fred-wang]

I would prefer to be explicit everywhere and use "ASCII case-insensitive" with a link to https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#ascii-case-insensitive ; this seems to be what the HTML and CSS specifications do (or how they would be fixed it e.g. w3c/csswg-drafts#4599 (comment)). I'm sure if we just keep case-insensitive as it is now, people will easily not read the appendix. We should also avoid duplicating definition from HTML5 as it was mentioned in another issue.

[fred-wang]

Consensus from 2019/12/16: Move to ASCII case-insensitiveness

[fred-wang]

These are the attributes, with the behavior changes that will require tests:

• boolean attributes: Behavior change for falSe.
• dir: No behavior change.
• mathvariant: Behavior change for e.g. double-StrucK
• display: Behavior change for blocK.
• form: Behavior change for poStfix.
• notation: Behavior change for e.g. updiagonalStriKe
• frame: Behavior change for e.g. daShed

Other attributes rely on CSS ( https://mathml-refresh.github.io/mathml-core/#types-for-mathml-attribute-values ) so nothing is changed here (although tests can always be added).

[davidcarlisle]

If we want to keep the relax schema there are two choices either we could say in words that values should be ascii-lowercased before validation or we could make the schema do the case insensitive match.

That would mean for example changing

attribute mathvariant {"normal" | "bold" | "italic" | "bold-italic" | "double-struck" | "bold-fraktur" | "script" | "bold-script" | "fraktur" | "sans-serif" | "bold-sans-serif" | "sans-serif-italic" | "sans-serif-bold-italic" | "monospace" | "initial" | "tailed" | "looped" | "stretched"}?,

to

attribute mathvariant {xsd:string{pattern="[Nn][Oo][Rr][Mm][Aa][Ll]|[Bb][Oo][Ll][Dd]|[Ii][Tt][Aa][Ll][Ii][Cc]|[Bb][Oo][Ll][Dd]-[Ii][Tt][Aa][Ll][Ii][Cc]|[Dd][Oo][Uu][Bb][Ll][Ee]-[Ss][Tt][Rr][Uu][Cc][Kk]|[Bb][Oo][Ll][Dd]-[Ff][Rr][Aa][Kk][Tt][Uu][Rr]|[Ss][Cc][Rr][Ii][Pp][Tt]|[Bb][Oo][Ll][Dd]-[Ss][Cc][Rr][Ii][Pp][Tt]|[Ff][Rr][Aa][Kk][Tt][Uu][Rr]|[Ss][Aa][Nn][Ss]-[Ss][Ee][Rr][Ii][Ff]|[Bb][Oo][Ll][Dd]-[Ss][Aa][Nn][Ss]-[Ss][Ee][Rr][Ii][Ff]|[Ss][Aa][Nn][Ss]-[Ss][Ee][Rr][Ii][Ff]-[Ii][Tt][Aa][Ll][Ii][Cc]|[Ss][Aa][Nn][Ss]-[Ss][Ee][Rr][Ii][Ff]-[Bb][Oo][Ll][Dd]-[Ii][Tt][Aa][Ll][Ii][Cc]|[Mm][Oo][Nn][Oo][Ss][Pp][Aa][Cc][Ee]|[Ii][Nn][Ii][Tt][Ii][Aa][Ll]|[Tt][Aa][Ii][Ll][Ee][Dd]|[Ll][Oo][Oo][Pp][Ee][Dd]|[Ss][Tt][Rr][Ee][Tt][Cc][Hh][Ee][Dd]"}}?,

which works but isn't very human readable or informative.

Since we already need some pre-processing described in words to allow data-foo attributes (or onfoo attributes to be ignored, I'm tempted to suggest we keep the existing string match but could be persuaded otherwise....

[fred-wang]

I think this was already the case since #22 ; not sure how important it is for legacy XML applications. I wonder what is done for HTML5 ?

[davidcarlisle]

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 13:07, Frédéric Wang ***@***.***> wrote: I think this was already the case since #22 <#22> ; not sure how important it is for legacy XML applications. I wonder what is done for HTML5 ?

The validator.nu html5 validator has a relaxng schema at its core but heavily preprocesses the document with custom code before validating it, so I think pre-processing is fine (and makes the schema a lot easier to read)

[ByteEater-pl]

legacy XML applications

Could you, please, define this term, @fred-wang? I don't know which XML applications are legacy and which aren't.

[fred-wang]

legacy XML applications

Could you, please, define this term, @fred-wang? I don't know which XML applications are legacy and which aren't.

I believe I was talking about XML-based MathML3 implementations.

[fred-wang]

Removing "tests" label, we have tests for mathsize and dir. It's not exhaustive, but HTML or CSS don't test exhaustively either...

Also removing core label since the only remaining changes are in mathml full

[NSoiffer]

Adding back spec update label because MathML 4 spec needs to mention this. I'm not sure where. The only mention of case-insensitivity in the full spec is in "A.1 Validating MathML". Maybe we can add a sentence ("All attribute names are ASCII-case insensitive") in "2.1.5 MathML Attribute Values" after it says "Attribute names are shown in a monospaced font throughout this document."

@davidcarlisle: suggestions?

[davidcarlisle]

@NSoiffer you mean attribute values not attribute names I think?

[davidcarlisle]

I dn't think it can be all values eg in xml ids are case sensitive, we have defined intent to be case sensitive (I think) and alttext etc don't pass on the lowercase value. The main point is to make anything that has type mathml-boolean ascii case sensitive (which is what the schema says so you can use stretchy=fAlse

which means we should change instances of "true " | "false" in tables such as https://w3c.github.io/mathml/#presm_mo_dict_attrs to mathml-boolean and define that somewhere in words to be a case insensitiv ematch

[dginev]

I was trying to understand the reference link: https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#ascii-case-insensitive

It apears to define "ASCII case-insensitive match".

To me that reads as a more operational definition.
Instead of stating that certain values are case insensitive, it appears to introduce comparisons which are done with a normalization step before the equality test.

I am not sure how that is used in the HTML spec text, but it ought to be doable to modify relevant MathML algorithms (e.g. matching an intent concept) to fit in, assuming we can find all of them.

[davidcarlisle]

@dginev

To me that reads as a more operational definition.

well it's both an operational definition but it also affects syntax.

For MathML it mainly affects any boolean attribute plus some other enumerated lists such as mathvariant

so the ascii case insensitive change means that unlike MathML3

stretchy="TRUE"

is valid, but also with the operational definition that it should be treated like

stretchy="true"

similarly mathvariant="BOLD-fraktur is valid and should work like bold-fraktur

But that doesn't mean all attributes should be lowercased,. anything with text or a URL for example can not be. It really just applies to attributes that take a fixed enumerated list of values.

[NSoiffer]

Sorry, yes I meant values -- it was late at night...

In https://w3c.github.io/mathml/#fund_attval, we define what the syntax is for attribute values. One of the values is "string" which currently says

string | an arbitrary, nonempty and finite, string of characters

We could add something like "With the exception of intent values, string values are ASCII-case insensitive when being matched."

That assumes that we want this for all non-intent string values. If not, then I think every instance needs to say whether it is ASCII-case insensitive or not. A bit ugly, but that is what core does.

[polx]

IDs are also attributes that are not to be considered case-insensitive.

[dginev]

A general proclamation that all matches are case-insensitive sounds dangerous to me. The HTML spec mentions each case where that rule applies, examples:

• boolean attribute matching
• enumerated attribute matching
• color matching
• character encoding in meta matching
• lang matching
• ...

There are at least 140 references to ASCII case-insensitive match in the HTML spec.

It is likely a bit painful, but I suggest we identify which algorithms in the MathML Full text permit this treatment and specify per-algorithm. Without a globally applicable rule.

[davidcarlisle]

@NSoiffer I think it needs to be per type so basically:

lengths, colors, mathml-boolean and mathvariants.

id, alttext, etc can't be case insensitive and <mfenced open="A"> shouldn't use an a (not that A is that common a delimiter either) bit also the attributes inherited from html like onclick=... can not be case insensitive as they hold Javascript code.

[NSoiffer]

I was being hopeful that we didn't need to say it everywhere, but I'm convinced we do. That's a chunk of work, but maybe there is an emacs-macro someone has already written to do it :-)

[davidcarlisle]

I don't think we need to say this in so many places, just in the definition of the types such as boolean and length-percentage, we already specify the type of all attributes

[NSoiffer]

We don't (currently) have a type "boolean", at least not in the main text. Types are defined here. I only see it defined for the schema.

Take a look at the table attributes: there are a lot that take on string values and it seems that every one of them needs to say they are ASCII-case insensitive. Most elements don't have that many attributes, but most elements do have attribute values that take on string values that should be ASCII-case insensitive.

Am I misunderstanding which should be ASCII-case insensitive?