nominate or delegate?

articles
[1] https://substrate.stackexchange.com/questions/2944/pallets-needed-for-staking
[2] https://meta5.world/posts/parachain-staking

@2075 could you extend your answer why do you think it's incomplete / dysfunctional?

As for collator nomination - this wasn't mentioned in the scope of current task. But here are my thoughts on this: at the moment our chain has no collator rewards for proposed blocks. Taking this into account, there are no incentives for other members to participate in collation process. We might think of ways to implement it, but there is no general way to go at the moment. Default rewards implementation (minting reward tokens and distributing them to collators) would introduce inflation for our network, meaning amount of existing tokens increase over time and cost for a single token decreases over time. So this is separate task and discussion, which shouldn't take place here.

@2075 could you extend your answer why do you think it's incomplete / dysfunctional?

As for collator nomination - this wasn't mentioned in the scope of current task. But here are my thoughts on this: at the moment our chain has no collator rewards for proposed blocks. Taking this into account, there are no incentives for other members to participate in collation process. We might think of ways to implement it, but there is no general way to go at the moment. Default rewards implementation (minting reward tokens and distributing them to collators) would introduce inflation for our network, meaning amount of existing tokens increase over time and cost for a single token decreases over time. So this is separate task and discussion, which shouldn't take place here.

regarding incomplete: see first screenshot

yes, this is not part of a ticket, coming from the initial thesis:

• alphaville was a npos prototype incentivising validator operators to contribute to building a decentralised network. for me the way to go, also according to our product thesis.
• subzero as a parachain lacks incentive for people to operate at the moment.
• the way it is built now assumes a permissioned consortium style network, which is not where we are heading at or from my point of view could but should not head to.
• as a result we should incentivise people to
  • operate collators
  • get rewards for that
  • have a determined amount of collators which can be nominated / delegated
  • from all collators a subset are selected e.g. random to be in the collator set
  • therefore incentive is there to run a collator and through nomination/delegation/selection enough incentive is there to support as a community and get commercial rewards

what alternatives do you have in mind?

seems like it is still incomplete / dysfunctional.
regarding incomplete: see first screenshot

@2075
The idea of this PR is to add three pallets: democracy, multisig, and proxy.
In the first screenshot, there is a council and nothing about mentioned pallets. What did you mean?

the first screenshot shows the existence of the council pallet but no option to join

Users shouldn't have direct access to join councils on their behalf.
They can introduce their candidacy and result will be decided by voting outcome.

• https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/maintain-guides-how-to-join-council

yes, can you show an example to achieve this on the current parachain?

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Additionally extended pallets with membership, tips, elections.

@vayesy seems like this PR doesnt run through (failing after 16s).
Can you fix it?

@5-mark this is part of old CI/CD logic (I believe it is cloned with all the source code from other repository). It's not relevant and actually should be removed, so this shouldn't be taken into account at the moment.

@vayesy pls look into the conflicts