How is the community organized?

[opendelicious]

I loved the D language but over the years it got complicated and too hard to maintain my projects.
Why is this project important to you?
How much of breaking change are you willing to suffer?
Why is this a better option than C#?
What programs will be your target?
What are your plans to make it easy for new people?

I have started to write an application in the Android Kotlin and I don't want to. I feel there is little other choice. I can't teach my wife D. I can barely read some D code. Every once in a while I look at the forum and saw that you are creating this fork and it gives me hope. I liked the Neat Programming Language conceptually. Programming languages are ready for a revolution like AI that shakes things up. Everyone thinks of them the same but with slight differences. What's the point? That's why I ask the questions I ask.

[adamdruppe]

Why is this project important to you?

I use it for a lot of different things so it is a practical matter to me to keep it working well.

How much of breaking change are you willing to suffer?

Hopefully it isn't "suffering"! But it all depends on the cost to existing code balanced against the benefit it brings and the ease of the migration path... so generally conservative but open. Hard to say except to examine a case by case basis.

OpenD has already done some small breaking changes from upstream D, but they are easy to fix (including while staying compatible with other compiler versions) and relatively rare to prevent new user mistakes.

Why is this a better option than C#?

I don't know C# well enough to do a fair comparison.

What programs will be your target?

D is an all-purpose programming language so I use for a wide variety of things.

What are your plans to make it easy for new people?

My big vision is an out-of-the-box download that just works with a lot of copy/pasteable examples. Spent the first half of january getting the basic download workig (haven't linked it on the website yet though!) and that's why I want to bundle libraries too, so there's just minimal friction in playing with things.

[adamdruppe]

but if you're looking for anything revolutionary, tbh it isn't likely to come from me. I like my basics that just work.

[IgorDeepakM]

Hopefully it isn't "suffering"! But it all depends on the cost to existing code balanced against the benefit it brings and the ease of the migration path... so generally conservative but open. Hard to say except to examine a case by case basis.

OpenD has already done some small breaking changes from upstream D, but they are easy to fix (including while staying compatible with other compiler versions) and relatively rare to prevent new user mistakes.

One thing we should encourage that when there are changes that have a big impact on the language is that we should first put it under a preview switch. This in order so that people can try it out, see how it works and if it has any unforeseen consequences. It can also give a good indication how popular a certain change is.

[quickfur]

That's what upstream tried, and the results are mixed. How many people bother using preview switches? In my 10 or so years with D I've only ever tried it one one occasion. For like 5 mins, before reverting and forgetting about it.

[adamdruppe]

yeah preview switches are bad, generally better to just have a preview release that has things but might change later.