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Remove bicycle=designated from "Cycle & Foot Path" Preset #1411

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tordans opened this issue Dec 19, 2024 · 3 comments
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Remove bicycle=designated from "Cycle & Foot Path" Preset #1411

tordans opened this issue Dec 19, 2024 · 3 comments

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@tordans
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tordans commented Dec 19, 2024

Is there a reason, why we have bicycle=designated on the highway=cycleway-"Cycle & Foot Path" preset?

Or, to ask it differently: Is there a country, where highway=cycleway does not clearly imply bicycle=designated?

I understand why it has to be on the highway=path-"Cycle & Foot Path" preset.

Looking at the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway#Foot_access_on_cycleways it is not clear that we actually need it. This linked section just references what the preset does (in an incomplete way excluding the regional presets filter…). But the example actually omit the bicycle=designated.


My proposal is to remove this line https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/blob/main/data/presets/highway/cycleway/bicycle_foot.json#L39

It was copied over from the iD Presets 4 years ago.


This would IMO resolve the issue behind #1193

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balchen commented Dec 19, 2024

Would that include the Cycle & Foot crossing preset as well?

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balchen commented Dec 19, 2024

Is there a country, where highway=cycleway does not clearly imply bicycle=designated?

The discussion usually revolves around the consequences of adding foot=designated, not if highway=cycleway in itself implies bicycle=designated.

The argument usually goes that adding foot=designated changes the implied access.

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tordans commented Dec 20, 2024

I now find the discussion at #1225 which precedes this one. Will keep this open for now to give it visibility, but also happy to close to only have one ticket…

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