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Make highway=living_street unsearchable in Bulgaria #1367

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Dimitar5555 opened this issue Oct 27, 2024 · 8 comments
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Make highway=living_street unsearchable in Bulgaria #1367

Dimitar5555 opened this issue Oct 27, 2024 · 8 comments
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translations this is an issue with a translation, which needs to be solved on the transifex platform waitfor-discussion a discussion in the osm community (e.g. a tag proposal) is required before this can be worked on

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@Dimitar5555
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In Bulgaria very few streets can be tagged with highway=living_street (probably less than five). The problem is that the preset's label is literally translated to "Residential Road" which confuses mappers, because highway=residential has the same translation.

Is it possible to make highway=living_street unsearchable only in Bulgaria?

@tordans
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tordans commented Oct 27, 2024

I think the quickest and first thing we should do is to update the translation. Could you have a look at that? There are docs on how it works in this repository.

@Dimitar5555
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highway=residential is translated as "Улица" ("Street")

highway=living_street is translated as "Улица в жилищна зона" ("Street in Residential zone", where residential zone is supposed to have a special meaning but it also means regular residential zone).

landuse=residential is translated as "Жилищна зона" ("Residential zone") which could be use for regular residential zone, as well as "residential zone with living streets".

Also see two of the many changesets where mappers tag highway=residential streets as living streets even when they arent. :

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/158401601
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/158400569

This is why I think that the best solution is to hide the preset.

@Oivo35
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Oivo35 commented Oct 27, 2024

I think hide highway=living_street is not a good idea. жилищна зона (residential area zone) is regular road sign in Bulgaria.
256px-Bulgaria_road_sign_Д15 svg
highway=residential could be translated as zhilishtna ulitsa,
highway=living_street could be zhilishtna zona - only for ways,
landuse=residential could be also zhilishtna zona - only for nodes and areas.

@matkoniecz
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"Street in Residential zone"

maybe turn it into

"Street in Residential zone defined by a special sign"

or similar?

@Dimitar5555
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I think hide highway=living_street is not a good idea. жилищна зона (residential area zone) is regular road sign in Bulgaria.

There is a single living street in the whole country. Every other instance of highway=living_street is incorrect.

"Street in Residential zone"

maybe turn it into

"Street in Residential zone defined by a special sign"

or similar?

I've just changed it to Улица в жилищна зона (обозначена със пътен знак Д15) (Street in a residential area (signposted with road sign D15)) although I'm not sure if it will help.

@matkoniecz
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There is a single living street in the whole country.

which one is actually existing?

@Dimitar5555
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Tsar Ivan Shishman in Sofia, starting from https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/683840371 and going in NE direction (Gmaps for reference, there is no other street level imagery that shows it, the signs were placed this year).

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tordans commented Nov 3, 2024

Given there seems to be an official sign #1367 (comment) I think the way to go is to find a better translation.

I suggest to keep this issue open until someone edits the translations so you can use it to discuss better wordings.

@tordans tordans added translations this is an issue with a translation, which needs to be solved on the transifex platform waitfor-discussion a discussion in the osm community (e.g. a tag proposal) is required before this can be worked on labels Nov 3, 2024
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