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Logos 2.0 #5

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jdorfman opened this issue Oct 12, 2016 · 45 comments
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Logos 2.0 #5

jdorfman opened this issue Oct 12, 2016 · 45 comments

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@jdorfman
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jdorfman commented Oct 12, 2016

There is a great Open Source project called instant-logos that allows you to search (e.g. Linux) for basically any logo and you then download a png or svg. I suggest we fork it for the following reasons:

  • Only allow Open Source logos
  • License for the logo (e.g. CC BY 3.0)
  • Copyright Holder (e.g. Acme Software Foundation)
  • Designer (e.g. Jason Long)
  • Make it work on GitHub Pages (less maintenance)
  • Replace Ads with links to donate to (fill in the blank) Foundation

We can also just partner with Instant Logos.

Thoughts?

cc: @auremoser

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simonv3 commented Oct 13, 2016

Hmm, I was going to suggest joining forces but it looks like there's no way to easily contribute to the actual website, which is how I would suggest adding those extra details.

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@simonv3 am I being too ambitious?

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simonv3 commented Oct 13, 2016

@jdorfman I don't think so! I think this could also very easily be powered with just a jekyll site running on GitHub where the repository with the images is the canonical truth and there's a pretty front-end. It's just a shame that we can't make those tweaks to the original instant-logos site. Though maybe the author is down for talking? I don't know them, so I'm hesitant to @ mention them in this thread.

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@simonv3 I will reach out

@elioqoshi
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That's a great idea! Count me in!
Also, let's make sure the logos are added in SVG format, properly minified.

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Still waiting to hear back

@auremoser
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Thanks @jdorfman sorry for the delay. Not sure what you've all decided but I can bring someone from Fairpixels (see #4) into the thread if you'd like, they spoke on a Mozilla Community Call.

I'm fine with helping to combine with Instant though, looks rad. But if you want to go the gh-pages route we could probably do something simple and static with cards...like Airport Codes or FlatUI colors where we just tile the logos and make them available for download. Maybe we do a 'best of' site with the tope 20, every month or so, pulling from the most recent additions to all these sources.

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@auremoser I really dig Airport codes, especially since the search engine uses all metadata.

Any others you recommend?

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Not sure what you've all decided but I can bring someone from Fairpixels (see #4) into the thread if you'd like, they spoke on a Mozilla Community Call.

More the merrier. =)

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Hey yall! @cameronrohani, @marcomarandiz and I made Instant Logo Search. We made it and, after awhile, moved on to other things. But we still have much love for it and would LOVE to see people contribute to it. Sorry for the delay.

instant-logos is a repository for the logos. InstantLogoSearch is the actual website. The latter uses the former and a lot of the implementation isn't best (or if having separate repos was a good idea at all), but we made it as quickly as we could. There's a huge laundry list of things we'd love to do (use webpack, host straight from github pages, TONS more logos, etc). It's currently a mess, but it shouldn't be difficult to clean up.

We thought about adding licensing, copyright, designs, etc. and we decided not to do that. Websites that serve a similar use case are usually super cluttered. We don't have a million ads or a bunch of the stuff they do, but we took the opposite extreme of having the meanest cleanest instant logo machine. So we stripped EVERYTHING that wasn't that. Even now, if we were to redo it, we may have erred on not doing the bucket functionality and maybe adding it when it seemed necessary. We'd like to keep it that simple.

We want it to stay clean, simple, and very single purposed.
We also want the listing to be as expansive as possible.
We also see your use case as valuable and it would be awesome to support it, somehow.

Something that does those things AND encourages collaboration is what I'd say we aim for. Maybe have instant-logos and then add links on InstantLogoSearch to the github pages? Something.

I'll let @cameronrohani & @marcomarndiz chime in here. Seeing InstantLogoSearch live on would be awesome.

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I'm with @saiichihashimoto on this one. Simple is key - it's what made us so widely successful initially.
I'd like to hear how this open source version of Instant Logo Search logos and metadata might be different from ClearBit. It would give more context for this continued conversation.

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jdorfman commented Oct 18, 2016

@saiichihashimoto @marcomarandiz I (now) agree with you regarding keeping it simple. Plus Wikipedia already does an amazing job of keeping that information, which would just be overlap:

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via: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnu-30-banner-without-background.svg

Regarding ClearBit, I totally forgot about that service. Maybe we are trying to reinvent the wheel or going down the xkcd/927 road:

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Need to rethink this one.

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xkcd, making our problems relatable. :-)

I just want to reiterate: It would be amazing to have your logos and our logos not just overlap but be the same. Having your work just show up on instantlogosearch and vice versa would be amazing. If there's work needed in our repos to get that going, let's discuss it.

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jdorfman commented Oct 19, 2016

@saiichihashimoto I think we would just need two things for now

  • a way of adding logos (the readme doesn't have any directions)
  • a reserved search-term/uri osd or open-source to show all Open Source related logos

cc: @marcomarandiz

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@saiichihashimoto what do you think? ⬆️

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bnvk commented Nov 1, 2016 via email

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jdorfman commented Nov 1, 2016

@bnvk to avoid overlap & maintenance I think partnering with ILS instead of maintaining our own would be ideal. With that said improvements are needed to ILS. Right now it isn't clear how logos can be added and one method is broken.

And their communication is slow... ;)

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bnvk commented Nov 2, 2016 via email

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kogg/instant-logos#4359

@jdorfman
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Could @bnvk @saiichihashimoto and whoever do a quick (10-20 min) Hangouts call or something? I think we all need to sync up.

I am PST

@saiichihashimoto
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Yeah... this seems like it needs just a quick hash out session. I'm in PST as well. Maybe during the day tomorrow sometime will work for everyone?

@jdorfman
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I'm open after 1pm pst. @bnvk how is your day looking?

@saiichihashimoto
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1pm sounds good for me!

@saiichihashimoto
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Oh no, you meant today! I missed the ball on this, sorry about that.

@saiichihashimoto
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Hey sorry everyone, I really dropped the ball on this. Let's finds another time and I'll have to make sure I make it.

@jdorfman
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@saiichihashimoto no ball was dropped. Still waiting to hear back from @bnvk

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@saiichihashimoto having trouble getting interest in this project. I don't have the authority to push forward. Closing for now. =/

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simonv3 commented Nov 29, 2016

Hey @jdorfman, do you mean you don't have authority from our side? If so, please don't let any other member of OSD hold you back from doing stuff you think needs to happen. We try to operate without hierarchy because we don't want that expectation on anyone, but this means that if anyone wants something to happen, they have to do it. This can make it a bit tricky to get things done, but it means that the best way to do something is to just forge forward and take the authority!

For what it's worth you have my full 👍 .

@jdorfman
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@simonv3 yeah I want @bnvk to be onboard but I think he is swamped with other stuff, which is fine. Everyone's time is limited.

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simonv3 commented Nov 29, 2016

I'll quote him from above:

Anywho, up for the existing maintainers and you to figure out 😁

I reckon he's onboard :)

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@simonv3 @jdorfman: Push on! If you feel like you are taking something away from @bnvk then I wouldn't worry about it. If I know him correctly he is all for it.

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Yep, knowing Brendan he is all up for it. Would be cool to see this happening

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bnvk commented Dec 14, 2016 via email

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@bnvk all good can we reopen?

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bnvk commented Dec 14, 2016 via email

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OK, cool. So what's next here? Let's get this train where it needs to go.

@jdorfman
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@saiichihashimoto let plan for after the new year. I have projects I need to wrap up at work.

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bnvk commented Oct 18, 2017

Just pinging @jdorfman and @saiichihashimoto if there is still any interest in this... we just had our first OSD Summit (in Berlin) and are ramping up with some website improvements. Would be cool to see this pick up steam again!!!

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Yeah, it might be interesting to see where this could go. Let's see what the rest of @kogg thinks as as well: @cameronrohani @marcomarandiz

@jdorfman
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I totally dropped the ball on this! Unfortunately, SustainOSS and BootstrapCDN are taking up most of my Open Source time so I will have to bow out on this. I think @elioqoshi would be a good leader for this project. Since I use instantlogosearch.com multiple times a week, I will be happy to do any beta testing. =)

Thanks!

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I am also quite caught up personally, but I think we at Ura can free up some time for this, let me get back on this

@saiichihashimoto
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Is this repo still something that's happening? :-)

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I'd like to get involved, but then again I'm too caught up with identihub.co
Maybe we could deploy it on Identihub rather than fork it....

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simonv3 commented Jan 9, 2018

I was actually thinking that would make a lot of sense.

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The bash project is up and running after @jdorfman asked me:
https://demo.identihub.co/project/bash#/

We could do a similar thing with a single project having all assets.

Obviously this needs a lot of tweaks to work in a similar fashion but we will get there.

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