Music Assistant
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Have you seen this https://music-assistant.io/faq/stream-to/#music-assistant |
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I have now but that is not not something that is easy or simple, nor a product that you can buy, instead that page currently only have suggestions on something that you can DIY build yourself using various parts with custom software running on a Raspberry Pi, what is not what I would like/request. https://github.com/gieljnssns/darkice-libaacplus-rpi-guide/blob/master/README.md Those suggested DIY solution is also messy as it needs a lot of parts when your record player does not have a built-in USB Audio Device with ADC but instead the turntable only has analog audio out (RCA stereo output with or without pre-amp). Please try to think about the same kind of people that would rather buy a Home Assistent Green applance instead of installing Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi, so no DIY solution that will need to be maintained differently and seperatly. Then you add the WAF factor to that and try to see that not everyone want to have a DIY solution containing many parts with a mess of connected wires right next to their pretty turntable in the living room as the would ruin the aesthetics look and nostalgic + retro feeling that is one of the main purposes for using a retro turntable with LP records. |
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The last sentence on that page have those product suggestions. |
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@Hedda if you are wanting to buy something then this should not be in the feature requests category? |
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I don't see any finished plug-and-play network streaming products that you can buy listed there, it only lists DIY projects that can be built. https://music-assistant.io/faq/stream-to/#music-assistant Music Assistant = You could use Darkcast to stream to Icecast which in turn sets up a web radio stream that you could add to MA! You could use this to stream your turntable around the house for example. Here is a generic tutorial and for those that like a nice step by step look here. For input a HiFiBerry could be used or a USB Audio Interface like this one or this one What I am asking for is if you can buy a pre-built commercial product (similar to the ”WiiM Pro Plus”) that will just work out-of-the-box? Anyway, the closest one I found to easy is "Raspberry-Pi-Vinyl-Streamer" which at least has a preconfigured image but is still a DIY project: https://github.com/quebulm/Raspberry-Pi-Vinyl-Streamer Sure if you build such a project using HiFiBerry ANALOGUE INPUT for ADC then can make it look good, but it is still a DIY project build. |
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I thought that this question better fitted here as a feature request since found no MA music providers for pre-built commercial products. But yes, do not either know of any pre-built commercial products with ANALOGUE INPUT with ADC that stream non-propriatory protocols? Again, the ”WiiM Pro Plus” is a music streamer product that has analog input but Music Assistant does not have a Music Provider for it. The closest product that can do this is otherwise the "Amazon Echo Dot" series which have AUX input but its require cloud, etc. https://decortweaks.com/does-amazon-echo-have-an-aux-input/ The only other product that I am aware of with analog AUX input for streaming are the Google Home Max speaker: https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/7659949?hl=en That is what I would like to achieve but since this is for the wife it is not really acceptable with a janky thinker solution that needs fiddling :/ |
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Yeah ok so input from the WiiM Pro. Once you settle on something then raise that specific product as a feature request. I think Marcel might actually have a WiiM Pro? |
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Cool! Note that even though all WiiM products looks to have some kind of Audio Input Port I think that only the ”WiiM Pro Plus” has both audio line in and feature tha software support for streaming the input from that analog input port that to other WiiMs acting as recievers. https://www.wiimhome.com/wiimpro/overview WiiM Pro Plus also has a better ADC for Line Input: "It uses TI Burr-Brown Audio PCM1861 ADC, achieving up to 192kHz/32-bit digital output, 110 dB SNR. Thus, it provides high-fidelity analog to digital conversion for input from a record player, MP3 player, or TV." I believe that those today also only support streaming the input from the analog ports to other WiiM products using their proprietary streaming called "Linkplay Music Streaming Platform" which they got from their parent company: So the Linkplay streaming part has a similar concept to Sonos in the way that they do not support streaming it to other ecosystems? |
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Would still love to see a ready-made network streaming appliance with AUX-input that anyone can buy and use this purpose out-of-the-box. I understand that Nabu Casa is working on some voice-assistant product hardware based on ESP32-S3 in combination with an XMOS chip (similar to Amazon Alexa Voice Service (AVS) Development Kit), and as is planned to be both open-source and some what modular in order to keep it developer friendly for modifications and add-ons, so perhaps if their hardware is modular enough it might be possible for someone to maybe addon external PCB breakout board for it with ADC chip and AUX-in for it? ...I can at least dream about that:
PS: While I still have not found a ready-made appliance solution for this, but I have updated two guides on how to achieve this via DIY solutions: |
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Would be great if could buy some simple music streamer appliance with analog AUX input to use as audio source provider, are such available?
What I want to achieve is a solution that is easy to install/maintain and use that allow my wife to stream music from a vinyl record player (LP turntable) to any speaker or group of speakers in our home. The vinyl record player (turntable) setup she has a pre-amp with phono (RCA) output ports for analog audio in stereo.
I would therefore prefer if we could buy some kind of networked (Wi-Fi) enabled appliance like a music streamer with stereo AUX input port that it will use for on-the-fly perform analog-to-digital conversion (ADC) + encoding for streaming to a Music Provider inside Music Assistant.
I have yet found a commercial product that does this outside the walled garden of closed ecosystems. That is, there are commercial products that support this but they will only stream to their own branded speakers within their own closed ecosystems (e.g. Sonos, and Yamaha).
Are there any solutions that can do this but stream to a Music Provider inside Music Assistant so it can forward to any Player Provider types?
UPDATE: To clearify, I would prefer to not build/maintain a DIY project, I would instead like to buy a complete appliance product that just works.
I think that it needs to have a high-quality ADC (analog-to-digital converter) for Hi-Fi music streams, though I'm not an audiophile myself.
Normally you have to use an expensive propriatory Hi-Fi music streamer system to achive this, howverr there are also mid-range products like the ”WiiM Pro Plus” from Linkplay that have both analog and digital audio input ports, but practially all of them will only stream within their own ecosystem so you need to buy both music streamers and stream receivers from the same brand for all your speakers to make them compatible.
https://www.wiimhome.com/wiimpro/overview
Alternativly I guess getting input via Bluetooth audio streaming could work in pinch but I am not aware of any such devices that are not troublesome and Bluetooth is not a very great way for permanent streaming which can be WAF approved (as it is my wifi that wants to stream her LP-records).
PS: I have previously used the ”Vinyl Cast” app on an Android phone/tablet (with analog input and ADC via a USB Audio Device) for casting to Chromecast Audio using Google Cast which was user-friendly but it was very buggy as ”Vinyl Cast” app the kept crashing + aesthetically the solution as a whole was not WAF approved + it kind of ruined the nostalgic retro vibe having to use the interface of Android phone/tablet each time, (nice with it though was that at least the initial release of the Vinyl Cast app included using Audio ACR to detect the song being played, but unfortunately this feature relied on a now discontinued third-party library/service so the feature was removed.)
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