Tidal Music Provider

[jozefKruszynski]

Music Assistant has support for Tidal

Documentation https://music-assistant.io/music-providers/tidal/

[cptincrdbl]

I am getting an error trying to complete the authentication for Tidal (using Music Assistant Beta 2.0.0b39). Authentication appears to complete on Tidal's website, but I receive a popup/toast message on Music Assistant page with " 'gender' ". Relevant log excerpt is attached.

tidal authenication error.txt

[oneofthemany]

I am on 2023.6.0 BETA 3 and tidal was no longer working using previous token.

I then removed previous tidal music provider and decided to reauth, but then got a gender pop up:

Question: why is gender there anyway, as that does not form part of the Tidal profile for auth?

To fix the issue I edited the /usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/tidalapi/user.py inside the container and removed any gender related lines, namely line 86 & 102:

[marcelveldt]

@oneofthemany I have removed your comment as it was a paste of way to many info which was also unneeded. There is no need to go manually hacking around files. You just need to update the server. You are probably on some versions behind ?

[marcelveldt]

To answer your question, Tidal removed something in their API that was no longer needed/in use and that crashed the model in tidalapi.

[marcelveldt]

Version 2023.6.0 BETA 3 is the version of the HACS integration which has nothing to do with the actual server version.
Maybe you run that manually on docker or something ?

[oneofthemany]

Version 2023.6.0 BETA 3 is the version of the HACS integration which has nothing to do with the actual server version.
Maybe you run that manually on docker or something ?

@marcelveldt

ok weird behaviour:

i inspected the container and the version was showing as follows:

org.opencontainers.image.version": "2.0.0b61"

Note: I have an auto update container service which looks for a new image every day and updates as and when

Also I have no local volumes so all config/function was in the container

i immediately thought that I was on the new version and went to see if the gender value was in the user.py file, and it was.

after your comment I then force removed the image and the container and restarted the service and all is working without the need of having to edit.

sometimes stuff just goes wrong by the looks of it

[CoreyJ87]

Yay. Thank you for your work on this. @jozefKruszynski

[Dave3564]

Hi, this was working perfectly for me before but for some reason my tidal account was removed and all I get is a spinning icon when I press authenticate with tidal?

[jozefKruszynski]

Hi, check that your browser is not blocking the popup for the tidal Auth page

[PhilippRoessner]

How can I play a Tidal Playlist in a Scene in Home Assistant? I tried this from a service call but it doesn't play my playlist, it just adds "Url Stream" to the queue:

service: media_player.play_media
target:
  entity_id: media_player.schlafzimmer
data:
  media_content_id: 70s
  media_content_type: music

[OzGav]

Have you got the MA integration installed? If so is media_player.schlafzimmer the MA entity?

[PhilippRoessner]

thanks for pointing me into that direction. It's working now. I only installed the Add-On but not the HACS and not the integration. It was not super obvious in the readme. Anyway, this is awesome! Better UX than with the Denon Heos Apps....

[OzGav]

No probs. There are some requests for a native HEOS player provider so that may come in the future for you as well….

[ekamagn]

Is there a way to get MA to play Tidal mixes?
The playlist, album and tracks works well

[OzGav]

From Discord

The mixes etc. are available, we have chosen not to add them at this time. will be added as and when the new frontend design allows them to be added.
That is to say that rather than trying to just shoe-horn them into the playlists section, they and the similar sections like this from other providers will have a dedicated area of the UI.

[jozefKruszynski]

So, funnily enough, the mixes actually are not really available yet, due to some strange behaviour from tidal themselves.

I actually just created a PR yesterday to the tidal library that we use that should then allow us to add the mixes in future when we decide to add them.

[PhilippRoessner]

When I open an artist, the lists for tracks and albums are empty. Does happen to anyone else?

[OzGav]

This is likely normal. What you see in MA for streaming providers is what you have in the streaming providers library. So it sounds like you have favourited or added to the tidal library an artist. In the MA library that is all you will see unless you add some of their albums to the library. You can select the provider filter and then you will see everything available from that provider although there is a bug in that functionality at the moment so it may not work as advertised for you.

Edit: FAQ updated...

[PhilippRoessner]

alright, thx!

[drosner]

Setting up for first time and interface hangs using iOS app when I hit the authenticate on tidal button. Logs show following and I've setup Spotify and tune in so far without issues.

Tried it from web browser and got a pop up window block which I got past and authenticated just fine. Leaving this out there in case someone else runs into issue.

2023-11-14 19:49:54.677 ERROR (MainThread) [music_assistant.webserver] [547162542032] Error handling message: CommandMessage(message_id=18, command='config/providers/get_entries', args={'provider_domain': 'tidal', 'action': 'auth', 'values': {'quality': 'high_lossless', 'auth_token': None, 'refresh_token': None, 'expiry_time': None, 'user_id': None, 'log_level': 'GLOBAL', 'session_id': 'jP9L0uBU8ek'}})
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/music_assistant/server/controllers/webserver.py", line 372, in _run_handler
    result = await result
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/music_assistant/server/controllers/config.py", line 233, in get_provider_config_entries
    await prov_mod.get_config_entries(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/music_assistant/server/providers/tidal/__init__.py", line 128, in get_config_entries
    tidal_session = await tidal_code_login(auth_helper, values.get(CONF_QUALITY))
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/music_assistant/server/providers/tidal/__init__.py", line 109, in tidal_code_login
    return await asyncio.to_thread(inner)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/asyncio/threads.py", line 25, in to_thread
    return await loop.run_in_executor(None, func_call)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TimeoutError: You took too long to log in

[simaovienna]

same problem with chrome and firefox - site stops working. any advice?

[OzGav]

Did you click on weitere informationen? This is going to be a problem at your end though. Pop up blockers, ad blocker, something like that

[simaovienna]

yes it brings me here:
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95669?visit_id=638420586315611619-1883622289&p=e_awsnap&rd=1

allowed pop ups and forwarding in the chrome settings and opened music assistant in an incognito tab. still the problem and no pop up.

yesterday - before i did a music assistant update (add on and integration) i was able to add tidal as provider and now it doesn't work anymore.

[OzGav]

Wait until after the next beta if it worked before.

[simaovienna]

will do that...thanks!

[crixyd]

Is it possible to play tidal Atmos content to an HDMI interface (pass through)?

[jozefKruszynski]

Not possible currently, and would require fundamental changes to how audio is handled in the application.
Stability is the focus until V2 is out of beta.

[IvanRebroff]

Is there any progress to get access to the "For you"-Section in Tidal (My Daily Discovery, My Mixes etc.) within MA?
I've just kicked out my beloved Roon (can't tell my family we have to save some money and at the same time pay 150 bugs for nice luxury). Okay, if MA getting more and more closer to Roon I will sponsor some bugs ;-)
But this is what I really do missing...

[OzGav]

This is unlikely to come until the stable release. So all I can say at the moment is no earlier than April.

[IvanRebroff]

Sounds good! Awesome work you guys created so far!

[ssiwinter]

Hi, really appreciate all the work you are doing for us. Do you have any idea when sony 360 audio should be available in MA, I'm thinking about switching to tidal from deezer but until 360 is available to MA it is little contra productive. because I doesn't want to always be searching for phone to switch song.

Thanks

[OzGav]

@jozefKruszynski ?

[jozefKruszynski]

I believe that it would require a rewrite of the audio streaming pipeline to essentially do a passthrough rather than processing the audio.
Same thing would need to happen for Atmos content for example.
It's not completely out of the realm of possibility one day, but it will not happen any time in the near future.

[SirJohnDoe]

I noticed that saved tracks on Tidal are also saved as albums in MA. In Tidal it only shows up as track, and cannot be found under Albums.

Is there a reason for this or should I submit an issue?

[marcelveldt]

Its a known issue, we working on it.

[mauritsivs]

Any chance tidal-connect can be integrated? There are some repositories available that might help:
https://github.com/TonyTromp/tidal-connect-docker
https://github.com/michaelherger/lms-plugin-tidal?tab=readme-ov-file
https://github.com/GioF71/tidal-connect
https://github.com/shawaj/ifi-tidal-release

[OzGav]

If you are volunteering to do the work then sure. Otherwise there are no more enhancements until after 2.0 stable expected in the next few months

[mauritsivs]

If I knew how I would definitely do it... Unfortunately I have no clue... Here's hoping someone who does finds the time some day...

[jenssvedlund]

Is anyone aware if it's possible to get a sample rate higher than 44.1kHz when using tidal?
According to the information in the beta version it's supposed to be up to 24bit 192kHz, but I have yet found a way to play any song with 192kHz sample rate.

[jozefKruszynski]

Did you remove and re add the provider?

[jenssvedlund]

Yes, same issue.

[jozefKruszynski]

Will be a while before I can look at the issue. I just landed at my second holiday destination and will not be back for a week.

[jenssvedlund]

No worries, have a look when you have time. Much appreciated

[jozefKruszynski]

Hi @jenssvedlund,
I completely forgot about this issue you were having. My apologies, do you still have this issue, or did it resolve itself eventually?

[cam20001]

Hello. Firstly thanks for peoples hard work on this.

Does anyone else have the issue of some songs not playing? I would say when I go to play a song, it works 40% of the time, and for the rest, the pause icon is there for a moment, then goes to play icon, and no music plays. Any ideas?

[cam20001]

I just checked it by doing the following - playing a song from the tidal app from my phone, via airplay to the Sony stereo. It worked. I then tried to play the same track from the same album via tidal in MA, and it didn't work.

Which player provider are you using for playback? I'm sorry - I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Also, what device are you using? I am using a Sony amp with streaming ability Sony STR DN840. It isn't a new device by any means, but it appears in my list of playback devices. In fact, I think it appears twice - once as a UPnP speaker, and once as airplay? In fact, I actually can't get the MA to play on the airplay component, but TuneIn works 100% of the time on the UPnP. Does this make sense? Apologies if it does not.

[cam20001]

Is there perhaps a difference in what songs Tidal offers in different territories? I'm in Australia...

[jozefKruszynski]

Yes there are differences by territory. Are you certain that the song you played had the same ID in both instances, as I mentioned, tidal song IDs often change if a publisher makes changes to the song on the tidal platform.

As to player provider I mean is it dlna, Chromecast, airplay etc?

Regardless, something odd seems to be happening.

I'll try to look after the weekend.

[cam20001]

I appreciate it.

[cam20001]

Yes - I am certain I played the same ID - I will try it again today. But I tried to be quite specific - and play a new album, and a song that wasn't on greatest hits etc. etc.