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Windows-like flipping #17
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I can help with some of this - there is an option called World order windows managment, which gives that LRU ordering you want. I haven't managed to get ctrl-tab movement quite like you want, but when using the default key - shift-tab, tab, enter gives you a close proximity to ctrl-tab (albeit a few keys more). |
I just hacked quickly and I am close to get a working prototype. Once I have it I will ask you to test the dev branch to see if it works for you. :-) |
That’s exciting - will definitely like to try it along with trying out the other fixes you’ve done |
👍 I'm back on Monday from London, so looking forward to testing, tweaking,
etc. I'm pharoless (without a PC to program) on vacation, as it should be.
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That’s exciting - will definitely like to try it along with trying out the
other fixes you’ve done
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Ok, I just pushed on dev branch the prototype. So you can try it out by loading (it works in P7):
The problem is, because of Pharo limitation, it is hard to make parametrisable the key binding to close mirage. For now I hard-coded it to be when you release shift key. But to find the value I had to do some retro-engineering. I think the actual Keymapping project does not manage actions to be done when a key is released. For now, I set the binding to |
I discussed with Guille and apparently there is support for such key combination in Pharo. |
Really appreciate you pushing on this one - anything to help make us more productive in Pharo is great. If we can get it running smoothly - having a conversation around removing the old window switcher might be interesting. Not many even know it’s there, and it’s also very clunky |
I tried the latest on :dev and it doesn't work well at all in Windows Subsystem for Linux (I'll try again in native windows soon):
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In Windows and other Window managers,
So, I was implying in my request that Shift be used by convention to specify a change of order on direction. I think if Shift-tab is allowed as the shortcut to activate Mirage, it would disallow leveraging of this convention to specify ergonomically reverse-tab. I'm hoping you can get something to work with |
OK, @juliendelplanque, here's the Windows 10 feedback. It's definitely on the right track!
As @macta said, this is a great feature to help productivity. Let me know how else I can help you! |
@fuhrmanator The thing is, I choose Shift+Tab as a shortcut because if I use Control or Meta, it usually clash with the windows switcher of the OS. (In fact I do not get the key event at all in that case). So I think I will stick to Shift-Tab by default and to go in reverse way you can always use arrows. What do you think? |
To clarify, I was not suggesting it be Command (on MacOS) but Ctrl (they
are two separate keys). On MacOS (as far as I know), it's Command-Tab to
switch in the OS, right?
In Chrome, you can try on your Mac the combination of Ctrl-Tab to flip to
the next Chrome tab. On my Windows 10 it works, and Shift-Ctrl-Tab flips to
the tab to the left (reverse change).
Shift with tab is really a solid behavior in the GUI, for like 20 years at
least. Changing that will likely alienate a lot of users. It is half the
reason I wrote the feature request in the first place :-)
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@fuhrmanator <https://github.com/fuhrmanator> The thing is, I choose
Shift+Tab as a shortcut because if I use Control or Meta, it usually clash
with the windows switcher of the OS. (In fact I do not get the key event at
all in that case).
So I think I will stick to Shift-Tab by default and to go in reverse way
you can always use arrows.
What do you think?
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As Mirage has sadly withered with subsequent versions of Pharo - just adding a note for anyone interested in Window's like flipping that I looked at what it would take to revive Mirage and decided that it was a bit more than I could realistically grok in an evening - but while doing so I understood enough about how to register a global keyboard shortcut and how there is a list of windows for the task toolbar and so I put those together into a simple project - https://github.com/macta/PharoFlipper which gives ^tab like behaviour via the ^1 shortcut. Its very basic and not as lovely as Mirage was, but hopefully it can help anyone else and maybe Mirage can be reborn. |
I tried Mirage finally and it is a big improvement. However, I was hoping to get it to work like Windows Alt-Tab (aka Flip) function which apparently is also in KDE, MacOS, iOS and Gnome.
First, I couldn't figure out how quickly to "go back to the last window I was in." The list of windows is absolute (rather than z-order), which seems to be part of the problem. Aha - I found the "World order" windows management setting.
As a use-case, I want to toggle between a Browser window and a Playground, because I'm copying/pasting bits of code. In Windows, you just hit "Alt-Tab-Tab (then release Alt)" and you can switch very quickly back and forth between two Windows. It's done with one hand.
In Mirage, there are many more keystrokes, and it also takes two hands:
So, I think it's basically asking for 1 thing to make it super ergonomic:
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