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An outcry for help from a former Push 1 owner #10

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morpheasgr opened this issue Aug 12, 2023 · 0 comments
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An outcry for help from a former Push 1 owner #10

morpheasgr opened this issue Aug 12, 2023 · 0 comments

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morpheasgr commented Aug 12, 2023

Hi :) this is a very sad former Push 1 owner, who purchased an AkaiPro Force six months before Ableton Push 3 was released.

Sadly I came to realize that the Force control surface Script (perhaps even the sysex stuff) has been nerfed by Akai/Ableton on purpose, so that the Push 1/2 market still has the upper hand in DAW control, while them and Akai were working on the Push 3 behind curtains, with no announcements to people who were looking for standalone Ableton Push and purchased the Force at full price, with only gift being a 50% off code for mpc sample packs, no synths/plugins -_-

Stuff missing is: drum rack mode, sequencer, scale mode and note mode. All these features are there in standalone mode, but in Ableton Control Mode they were taken out. Since we know the code has been there on the Akai/Ableton partnership since the Push one, it is safe to assume the functionalities were stripped on purpose.

The pad matrix has been basically limited to be fixed to clip launching, when controlling Ableton, which requires a the Live Contol mode to be activated anyhow to work as a controller. The device has step sequencing for external hardware.... Can accept also midi in from the USB-A ports if I read the most recent changeover right. I wish I could use this like the far less expensive Push 1, completely without having to use another controller for note input or for basic rhythm patterns.

I can link you to all resources I know and people who know the internals, could give you SSH access to the device if needed, and integrated screen capture seems to be feasible as well.

Have checked the usual suspects, nativeKontrol, Isotonik. They have done something for the Akai Fire but not for the Force. Only thing they did for the Force was while utilizing a second piece of hardware in parallel. I do have midi to USB somewhere, it's crazy that Akai opted for Network Integration of the hardware as a controller. Midi via supplied USB connection does not seem to be an option, driver/board wise.

People have root access on it and are able to execute code... But no owner is as much of an Ableton Push fanatic as I am.

Been years since I wrote proper stuff in python and this requires a ton of internals knowledge that I do not have the time to obtain, juggling between multiple jobs.

Best wishes... By the way latest Ableton changelog a couple of days ago mentions Script updates.

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