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| 1 | +# 2025-01-08 Meeting Notes |
| 2 | + |
| 3 | +## Agenda |
| 4 | + |
| 5 | +- Status 2025-03 |
| 6 | +- Info: Steering Committee On-Site right after next Planning Council Meeting |
| 7 | +- Eclipse IDE Sponsorship |
| 8 | + - Presentation & discussion with Wayne Beaton on his "in app" sponsorship plugin (https://github.com/waynebeaton/org.eclipse.sponsor) |
| 9 | + - General discussion on Eclipse IDE individual sponsorship improvements |
| 10 | + |
| 11 | +## Minutes |
| 12 | + |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +### Sponsorship / Donation |
| 15 | +- Context: presentation of sponsorship options to IDE users shall be improved |
| 16 | +- Proposal: Eclipse plug-in with a "donate" view showing up at IDE startup in any of the view stacks |
| 17 | +- Inspired by Thunderbird |
| 18 | +- Wayne has a prototype view based on pure SWT: https://github.com/waynebeaton/org.eclipse.sponsor |
| 19 | + - Initial version used browser but dropped for potentially high footprint, delaying startup |
| 20 | + - Current state it rudimentary, needs to be polished (and expertise is required to do so) |
| 21 | + - Consensus: a solution that dynamically retrieves content should be preferred, as static content might get old/outdated |
| 22 | + - E.g., based on a browser loading some HTML from the web |
| 23 | + - "Welcome" view also uses browser, so if using a browser on startup should really have an impact, it might occur there as well |
| 24 | + - Technical integration based on a browser just opening a URL would be easy; effort needs to be spent on providing a proper website |
| 25 | + - View could also open up (soon) after startup to avoid an delaying effects on the overall startup |
| 26 | + - Alternatives |
| 27 | + - Using editor instead of a view (which is just considered a document closed like any other file, comparable to "news" documents opening after updates in other tools) |
| 28 | + - Other tools have a toolbar item to donate (which has the benefit of always being present); we currently only have a menu entry |
| 29 | + - Maybe multiple solutions should be implemented and analyzed regarding which gives best results |
| 30 | + - Might be configured to not be shown again, but we should not address that people want to get rid of such a popup as soon as possible |
| 31 | +- Ability to collect information on how the donation page was reached (from website, from IDE etc.)? --> is already in place |
| 32 | +- There are different technical options how to present donation options that can be realized easily; actual question is what and how we want to present to the user |
| 33 | +- Why do people want to donate? |
| 34 | + - In Thunderbird, most people have same/similar workflows, so every user will benefit from every (or most) improvements |
| 35 | + - In Eclipse, there are many areas that many people do not directly benefit from, so if they do not know where a donation goes to, they will not find their donation invested in a way that helps them |
| 36 | + - Maybe it should be clear (and true) that donations go to the development of the essential base that everyone benefits from |
| 37 | + |
| 38 | + |
| 39 | +### Steering Committee On-Site February 11th/12th |
| 40 | +- In case there are topics that should be discussed by the steering committee, submitting them soon (before the on-site meeting) would be good, as there will be quite some time to discuss several topics at that meeting |
| 41 | + |
| 42 | +### Status 2025-03 |
| 43 | +- Marketing for CDT Release in March? |
| 44 | + - To be discussed directly between Jonah and Thomas |
| 45 | +- Impact of Java 24 |
| 46 | + - Platform cleaned up of SecurityManager issues |
| 47 | + - Good state, upcoming release will be working when run with Java 24 |
| 48 | + |
| 49 | + |
| 50 | +## Next Meeting |
| 51 | + |
| 52 | +Next meeting will be on February 5th, 2025. |
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