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Enable Surface Pro Devices (IPTS/i915/i2C/Marvell) #844
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Can you help us to know the output of the lsmod command, please
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[surface@surface ~]$ lsmod Module Size Used by isofs 45056 1 rfcomm 86016 16 fuse 118784 3 bnep 24576 2 btusb 53248 0 btrtl 16384 1 btusb btbcm 16384 1 btusb btintel 24576 1 btusb bluetooth 638976 41 btrtl,btintel,btbcm,bnep,btusb,rfcomm sd_mod 61440 4 ecdh_generic 24576 1 bluetooth input_leds 16384 0 led_class 16384 1 input_leds usbhid 57344 0 snd_hda_codec_hdmi 57344 1 uas 28672 0 cdc_ether 16384 0 usbnet 49152 1 cdc_ether r8152 65536 0 mii 16384 2 usbnet,r8152 usb_storage 69632 3 uas snd_hda_codec_realtek 110592 1 snd_hda_codec_generic 86016 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek mousedev 24576 0 joydev 24576 0 intel_rapl 24576 0 x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0 intel_powerclamp 16384 0 kvm_intel 233472 0 kvm 737280 1 kvm_intel hid_multitouch 24576 0 intel_ipts 32768 0 hid_sensor_accel_3d 16384 0 hid_sensor_als 16384 0 hid_sensor_rotation 16384 0 hid_sensor_gyro_3d 16384 0 hid_sensor_trigger 16384 8 hid_sensor_gyro_3d,hid_sensor_als,hid_sensor_accel_3d,hid_sensor_rotation industrialio_triggered_buffer 16384 4 hid_sensor_gyro_3d,hid_sensor_als,hid_sensor_accel_3d,hid_sensor_rotation kfifo_buf 16384 1 industrialio_triggered_buffer hid_sensor_iio_common 16384 5 hid_sensor_gyro_3d,hid_sensor_trigger,hid_sensor_als,hid_sensor_accel_3d,hid_sensor_rotation industrialio 81920 7 industrialio_triggered_buffer,hid_sensor_gyro_3d,hid_sensor_trigger,kfifo_buf,hid_sensor_als,hid_sensor_accel_3d,hid_sensor_rotation snd_soc_skl 118784 0 snd_soc_skl_ipc 73728 1 snd_soc_skl snd_soc_sst_ipc 16384 1 snd_soc_skl_ipc hid_sensor_hub 20480 6 hid_sensor_gyro_3d,hid_sensor_trigger,hid_sensor_iio_common,hid_sensor_als,hid_sensor_accel_3d,hid_sensor_rotation hid_generic 16384 0 snd_soc_sst_dsp 36864 1 snd_soc_skl_ipc mwifiex_pcie 40960 0 i915 2080768 24 intel_ipts snd_hda_ext_core 28672 1 snd_soc_skl snd_soc_acpi 16384 1 snd_soc_skl snd_soc_core 270336 1 snd_soc_skl mwifiex 331776 1 mwifiex_pcie irqbypass 16384 1 kvm crct10dif_pclmul 16384 0 crc32_pclmul 16384 0 ghash_clmulni_intel 16384 0 pcbc 16384 0 i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 i915 nls_iso8859_1 16384 2 snd_compress 24576 1 snd_soc_core ac97_bus 16384 1 snd_soc_core snd_pcm_dmaengine 16384 1 snd_soc_core drm_kms_helper 200704 1 i915 nls_cp437 20480 2 snd_hda_intel 45056 6 vfat 24576 2 aesni_intel 200704 0 snd_hda_codec 151552 4 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek fat 81920 1 vfat cfg80211 782336 1 mwifiex mac_hid 16384 0 aes_x86_64 20480 1 aesni_intel crypto_simd 16384 1 aesni_intel ipu3_cio2 36864 0 cryptd 28672 3 crypto_simd,ghash_clmulni_intel,aesni_intel glue_helper 16384 1 aesni_intel snd_hda_core 94208 7 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_ext_core,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_soc_skl intel_cstate 16384 0 snd_hwdep 16384 1 snd_hda_codec v4l2_fwnode 20480 1 ipu3_cio2 intel_uncore 135168 0 drm 479232 8 drm_kms_helper,i915 videobuf2_dma_sg 16384 1 ipu3_cio2 intel_rapl_perf 16384 0 snd_pcm 131072 9 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_ext_core,snd_hda_codec,snd_soc_core,snd_soc_skl,snd_hda_core,snd_pcm_dmaengine videobuf2_memops 16384 1 videobuf2_dma_sg videobuf2_v4l2 28672 1 ipu3_cio2 videobuf2_common 53248 2 ipu3_cio2,videobuf2_v4l2 snd_timer 36864 2 snd_pcm i2c_hid 24576 0 videodev 212992 4 v4l2_fwnode,ipu3_cio2,videobuf2_v4l2,videobuf2_common intel_gtt 24576 1 i915 pcspkr 16384 0 mei_me 45056 1 agpgart 49152 2 intel_gtt,drm hid 139264 6 i2c_hid,usbhid,hid_multitouch,hid_sensor_hub,intel_ipts,hid_generic rfkill 28672 6 bluetooth,cfg80211 snd 98304 20 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_compress,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm idma64 20480 0 mei 106496 3 intel_ipts,mei_me media 45056 2 videodev,ipu3_cio2 syscopyarea 16384 1 drm_kms_helper soundcore 16384 1 snd sysfillrect 16384 1 drm_kms_helper sysimgblt 16384 1 drm_kms_helper evdev 20480 15 fb_sys_fops 16384 1 drm_kms_helper intel_lpss_pci 20480 0 intel_pch_thermal 16384 0 intel_lpss 16384 1 intel_lpss_pci battery 24576 0 soc_button_array 16384 0 ac 16384 0 surfacepro3_button 16384 0 pcc_cpufreq 16384 0 xt_hl 16384 22 ip6t_rt 16384 3 nf_conntrack_ipv6 16384 7 nf_defrag_ipv6 20480 1 nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_log_ipv4 16384 1 nf_log_common 16384 1 nf_log_ipv4 ipt_REJECT 16384 1 nf_reject_ipv4 16384 1 ipt_REJECT xt_LOG 16384 1 xt_limit 16384 2 xt_addrtype 16384 4 xt_tcpudp 16384 18 nf_conntrack_ipv4 16384 7 nf_defrag_ipv4 16384 1 nf_conntrack_ipv4 xt_conntrack 16384 14 ip6table_filter 16384 1 ip6_tables 32768 53 ip6table_filter nf_conntrack_netbios_ns 16384 0 nf_conntrack_broadcast 16384 1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns nf_nat_ftp 16384 0 nf_nat 36864 1 nf_nat_ftp nf_conntrack_ftp 20480 1 nf_nat_ftp nf_conntrack 155648 8 xt_conntrack,nf_conntrack_ipv6,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_nat,nf_nat_ftp,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_conntrack_ftp libcrc32c 16384 2 nf_conntrack,nf_nat iptable_filter 16384 1 coretemp 16384 0 msr 16384 0 sg 40960 0 scsi_mod 258048 4 sd_mod,usb_storage,uas,sg crypto_user 16384 0 ip_tables 28672 9 iptable_filter x_tables 45056 12 ip6table_filter,xt_conntrack,iptable_filter,xt_LOG,xt_tcpudp,xt_addrtype,ip6t_rt,ip6_tables,ipt_REJECT,ip_tables,xt_limit,xt_hl ext4 737280 1 crc32c_generic 16384 0 crc16 16384 2 bluetooth,ext4 mbcache 16384 1 ext4 jbd2 126976 1 ext4 fscrypto 32768 1 ext4 xhci_pci 16384 0 xhci_hcd 266240 1 xhci_pci usbcore 294912 9 xhci_hcd,usbnet,usbhid,usb_storage,btusb,xhci_pci,cdc_ether,uas,r8152 crc32c_intel 24576 3 usb_common 16384 1 usbcore |
[surface@surface ~]$ ./clear-linux-check-config.sh host SUCCESS: 64-bit CPU (lm) |
[surface@surface ~]$ lspci |
It appears there was an effort to enable IPTS on Linux here: https://github.com/ipts-linux-org/ipts-linux-new (but maybe abandoned?) and a set of community maintained platform patches+firmware here: https://github.com/jakeday/linux-surface . |
My Enhancement Request states: "I would like to request Clear Linux add support for Surface Pro (business class touch devices) including the display/pen/stylus without user modification after installation." Was I unclear about upstream support and not community. - especially since i915 is specifically Intel if I'm not mistaken. If so - I am re-iterating upstream support from distribution. |
@surface4linux the clearlinux team doesn't do upstream enabling of hardware. If there are specific kernel configs or freely distributable firmwares that need adding or changes in the kernel, @miguelinux can do so. The more specific your request is, the easier it will be. Just because Intel made i915 chips doesn't mean that Hardware Vendors haven't done evil things to it, or that it will ever work well with Linux. That is almost entirely out of our hands from the Clear Linux team - we likely can't ever fix issues with it. This is not the right place to ask for upstream development. Sorry. |
Since I have been asked to be specific - Can the Clear Linux Team accommodate this? "I would like to request Clear Linux add support for Surface Pro (business class touch devices) including the display/pen/stylus without user modification after installation." While I currently run this device with the patches mentioned by @puneetse - it seems unlikely the distribution will support it. Please confirm. (aren't there other i915 distribution issues anyway?) |
@surface4linux currently I'm not going to add non-upstream patches to support specific hardware vendors' configurations. My thinking is the same for the non-upstream udev rules and systemd configurations. I'm also not willing to add the firmware without a good chain of trust and known license set. |
Would you like me to close this request - or is there any value left here to consider? part of my request for this to be included from distribution is to maintain a higher level of trust as well. Realize I am not trying to make it more difficult for anyone either. Thanks |
This can be closed now. We would definitely enable the driver and other components that we can ship once they are enabled upstream. You are fine, we are just working through the unfortunate case of hardware that doesn't have great Linux support. |
ipts-linux-org/ipts-linux-new@4cf74d2
To close this issue, we should at minimum determine whether this firmware is going to go upstream (so that we get it automatically). Also, perhaps @chivakker knows if above i915 patch is staged for upstream and for which kernel (we can also ask the author). |
always :) Also:
We try our best to do what we can - sometimes we can solve issues by working with other folks at Intel to resolve issues. However, this isn't always possible. |
Thanks - and this is why I placed this here. I was truly impressed by the live usb's responsiveness, and then disappointed I would have to continue to rely on someone other than distribution authors to get input devices (pen and touchscreen) working. That said - I dont even want to mention the camera's the surface has - including IR :( That's the shame of all this. I consider mainstream Operating Systems to be heavily bloated (thus Linux) and anything other than open source potentially dangerous. Potential for this line of devices is great, but not without knowing as @ahkok has pointed out
Just a shame the industry sees customers as the product and the devices proprietary, rather than customers having freedom over their devices. Regardless - my device can act as a test bed as needed - and thanks for your consideration on this |
@ahkok @chivakker - is there a determination about patches upstream and a status or should i assume this will get closed/ignored without resolution. Perhaps I should consider the hardware to be problematic for running opensource |
Expanded device support is here https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface.git Has anyone tried to modify CL Kernel and get this working? I am going to try with a surface pro 8 but before I do I need to know it's worth wiping windows off my surface completely. |
clear linux now didn't even detect surface keyboard, trackpad. while ipts is another big problem. |
I would like to request Clear Linux add support for Surface Pro (business class touch devices) including the display/pen/stylus without user modification after installation.
The current live usb runs stunningly well, but lacks the display and input device support.
My current surface pro 4 device runs a patched kernel (antergos) and would like additional alternatives to that operating system.
Clear seems to be a 'clear' choice for these devices....
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