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Seshatic Queenity #26

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bvssvni opened this issue Jan 30, 2022 · 1 comment
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Seshatic Queenity #26

bvssvni opened this issue Jan 30, 2022 · 1 comment

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bvssvni commented Jan 30, 2022

See docs of the Prop library about Seshatic Queenity: https://docs.rs/prop/0.14.0/prop/queenity/index.html

One idea of classifying Seshatic Queenity in Joker Calculus is:

Seshatic (Platonism, Joker Seshatism)

The idea is that Seshatic Queenity has elements of both Platonism and Seshatim.

At the depth, Seshatic Queenity is Seshatic Platonism. This is due to the terminal condition of Seshatic Queenity, where it is not possible to construct higher queen relations. Terminal condition is related to Platonism. However, this relation is directional, so it is also Seshatic.

At the surface, Seshatic Queenity is Seshatic Joker Seshatism. This is the same as !(Platonic Seshatism). Notice that this is the dual of the depth language where Seshatism is swapped with Platonism and vice versa.

The surface Seshatic Joker Seshatism is used to distance the language from Platonism, although the depth is Seshatic Platonism. This implies that Seshatic Queenity is about Seshatism.

The dual !(Seshatic (Platonism, Joker Seshatism)) is:

  • OJC: Platonic Joker (Platonism, Joker Seshatism)
  • CJC: Platonic (Joker Platonism, Seshatism)

The double-dual in OJC is:

Seshatic Joker Joker (Platonism, Joker Seshatism)

In CJC this normalizes to the original Seshatic (Platonism, Joker Seshatism).

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bvssvni commented Jan 30, 2022

To illustrate how this works, one can use two tales:

  • Buddha holding a flower: Seshatic (Platonism, Joker Seshatism)
  • Jacob's Ladder: Platonic (Seshatism, Joker Platonism)

The myth of Buddha holding a flower is a tale of direct transfer of wisdom from master to student. The flower has a Seshatic Queenity relation to reality, where there is no middle-reality between the flower and reality itself.

Jacob's Ladder is a tale of an infinite progression towards an unreachable end. Interpreted as reality, this means that every step is middle-reality between a lower reality and a higher reality.

At the surface, these two tales are opposed to each other:

  • Surface of Buddha holding a flower: Seshatic Joker Seshatism
  • Surface of Jacob's Ladder: Platonic Joker Platonism

However, when you take the dual of the depth in one tale, you get the surface of the other tale (OJC + CJC).
When you take the dual of the surface in one tale, you get the depth of the other tale (CJC).

Seemingly counter-intuitive, the tale of Buddha holding a flower is about direct experience, hence Seshatism. However, due to the terminal nature it must distance itself from Platonism at the surface.

Likewise, in the tale of Jacob's Ladder, the dream is about abstraction, hence Platonism. However, due to the indeterminate nature it must distance itself from Seshatism at the surface.

Jacob's Ladder can be thought of as a rejection of Seshatic Queenity:

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