munge together acquired companies or no?

[filmaj]

We do so right now with Magento + Adobe (we count anyone who has "Magento" in their company profile name as an Adobe employee). There are open questions as to whether or not to do this for IBM+RedHat and MSFT+GitHub.

Doing so at data-scraping-time destroys valuable info: how much of a company's activity is contributed to by an acquired company? It would be better to allow to delineate between this information.

One option: these 'mungings' could be applied at the BigQuery level. That way, at BigQuery-time, we can choose to run analyses that delineate (or not) acquired companies.

[fhoffa]

My 2 cents: I would keep GitHub and Red Hat as separate entities, as long as they choose to be separate independent entities.

Likewise, I would count Amazon and The Washington Post as separate entities, and not as "Jeff Bezos".

Per official communications, GitHub will get its own CEO. Meanwhile IBM promised to keep Red Hat independent. I also expect employees to strongly identify with one vs the other - so I would respect that.

[filmaj]

I think you're right on this @fhoffa. We had a conversation about this internally at Adobe and waffled between doing it and not. Ultimately @mjasay asked to put GitHub+MSFT and RedHat+IBM together, and it's a good idea to listen to my boss 😉

Worthy of a conversation for sure. I'm happy to revert / update the user/company table I use in bigquery based on whatever shakes out here.

[fhoffa]

It's all about incentives :)

On acquisitions gone wrong, see TravisCI. Acquired by Idera a month ago, yesterday they started laying off a big chunk of their employees, including their most senior engineers. I would not give Idera any credit for open source contributions, even if they payed money for this company. Now, instead of using my best criteria, we can let people choose if they want to change their profile to Idera - then we respect that choice.

Now, it would be great to have a second table for roll ups - in case people want to do the rollup and merge companies according to their best judgement.

[mjasay]

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[filmaj]

Now, instead of using my best criteria, we can let people choose if they want to change their profile to Idera - then we respect that choice.

This nails it. We should change companies.js simple regex matching not to count companies based on acquisitions. Rather, it should be used as a means of massaging what the user profiles intend to communicate. That said, I think we can continue to use the munges for things like counting '🍏' as 'Apple Inc.', or counting all of 'AWS', 'AMZN' and 'Amazon' as 'Amazon'.

I think I'd want to see what changes/additions would need to be made in the (Big)SQL queries revisioned under db/ to formalize those 'delineate or not' queries. Maybe we could work on a PR for this?

[pabelanger]

IBM does not own Red Hat right now, so it is currently incorrect to lump these two companies together. Until the acquisition is complete 090b172 should be reverted.