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Ads randomly playing #415
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Can you press '$' while the ad plays and post the debug output? How |
I just started getting the same issue. EDIT: Turns out that it happens, it seems, at least once every four songs for me. I've been getting some obviously foreign ads, as well (some ones in EDIT 1: Brazilian isn't a language. My fault for being ignorant. |
Here's my debug output:
To me, it looks like this debug output is the output for the previous song, not the ad itself. I'm no expert, however. |
Hm, looks like standard song url’s to me. I have not heard a single ad |
The ad was in place of song "Simple Man": Content of corresponding debug.json, which was eddited to remove auth tokens: |
Thanks for the debug output. As I expected there’s no flag identifying Here’s a patch that calls ad.getAdMetadata: |
I tried your patch. Everything song printed {"stat":"ok","result":{}}, even one that played an ad instead of a real song. But one interesting thing I noticed was that the playing time of the ad/fake song showed the actual 30 seconds, much shorter than the actual playing time of a real song. Maybe that's a way to tell when an ad is playing? |
My guess it that the ads “go away” if we’d implement whatever the mobile |
I have sent you an email regarding the source. |
I too am starting to hear ads when using pianobar. I am fairly certain this is a change on the part of Pandora, as I am starting to see this issue in other pandora clients as well, specifically Hermes for OSX. As mentioned earlier, I used
As was also mentioned above, each ad I hear, while labeled as a normal song, has a duration of 30 seconds or less. |
Does anyone know if there are any ads on Pandora itself that are longer than 30 seconds? |
data point - I hear them now using pithos... discussion here: pithos/pithos#39 |
I had a look at the decompiled source code of the mobile client. As far Obviously pianobar does not fetch these special ad tracks, nor does it So here are a few questions for you. I’m hoping for a pattern in your
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If the ads are anything like what I am getting for other people it is almost random, some days I would get them every 15-20 minutes and others I would almost never get them, today in around 11 songs I only got 1 ad, and they are some long songs as well. As for Pandora One - nope, residing in the US with no proxy enabled, and I would say Heavy user - for hours on end every day. Can we get a quick dirty patch that always shows total song length next to the song title even after the song is over? |
I have an account that I created about a month ago that started playing ads On the other hand, I have another account that I have had for years, with 5 Neither account has Pandora One, US with no proxy. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:16 AM, PromyLOPh [email protected]:
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I started using Pianobar yesterday and listened for many hours without a single ad (I haven't used Pandora in almost a year). I was shocked this morning to start it up and find that songs were replaced with US audio ads (I live in Australia). Sometimes there would be 3 ads in a row even. Anyway, it seems to happen every couple of tracks, I haven't been keeping track of an exact number. I'm not subscribed to Pandora One and I'm not using a proxy. I'm not sure why we're being targetted but maybe excessive skipping is a possible cause? Has anyone else here been skipping more songs than they normally would be able to? EDIT - Just listened to 1 song through Pianobar and then got 10 ads in a row (after continuously skipping them). On the web client, it works normally with no audio ads for me (I have Adblock Plus enabled). |
As I expected there seems to be a high correlation between heavy usage –
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My data: long time Pandora user. never been subscribed to Pandora One. US, no proxy. I get ads in pithos (which, from what I understand, uses pianobar) every now and then and just like other Pandora clients, they are more frequent if I interact with the app (especially skipping a song). I use Pithos/Pandora ~5-6 hours every weekday. |
Is pianobar playing audio ads? How often (every n tracks)?
Are you subscribed to Pandora One?
Are you residing in the US or using a (control) proxy to access Pandora?
How many hours a month do you listen to Pandora (estimate, “heavy user” or not)?
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Is pianobar playing audio ads? How often (every n tracks)?
Are you subscribed to Pandora One?
Are you residing in the US or using a (control) proxy to access Pandora?
How many hours a month do you listen to Pandora (estimate, “heavy user” or not)?
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Also, it might be relevant that I have used the official android client at times. |
I modified the patch posted earlier slightly to match the mobile (i) Fetching ads with token 1811622870787436013-pod:1/1/2... Is there anyone who actually gets any meaningful data with the patch (Explanation: With this patch pianobar recognizes ad tracks and tries to |
Sorry, wrong patch. Use this one instead: https://gist.github.com/8506110 |
I was just using the android app and Pandora did the exact same thing that
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Have you tried contacting Pandora’s support yet? |
Yea I just sent sent them an email, now waiting on a reply back. |
The only way to create an account is through the actual pandora server, and when you create an account you create a station and therefore you've just used that newly created account with the actual pandora server. |
On 10/26/14, 11:01 PM, CalebW wrote:
However, just an update: I've been running AdBlock on Chrome for a while Royce Hamel |
Well that's the problem. Once you make the new account, you don't make a station on the actual pandora site. You close out pandora and open up pianobar, and create a new station there. It's worked for me ever since I did that, though? But it could be different for other people..
I don't typically use chrome anyways, because it always runs my computer really slow, so i mostly use mozzila. But pianobar I mostly use when I'm at school, because my phone typically has really crappy music heh. But I guess that is one way to solve the problem? I think there is also a plugin for mozzila called Adblock or something. I cant remember, because i had it on my old laptop.. eh. |
On 11/29/14, 10:07 AM, wolfanite wrote:
Royce Hamel |
Since i started using the (2014.09.28) release i don't have any ads anymore. Today i use pianobar proxied over proxychains, which tunnels it through an EC2 instance i have. I have been listening pandora over 4-6 hours for weeks now with no ads. |
I also just started getting the random ads mislabeled as songs on multiple machines. This is odd because I haven't had any of these for the past 2+ years while using pianobar |
Did you change anything (listening habits, setup, …) in the past days? |
Nope, I made a new station and It just arbitrarily played ads for a day. Then it seemed to stop. Or at least I haven't noticed it since then. |
I often get ads when switch stations:
The song did not play (it was just an ad instead). But it's a song that I hear on the rotation. |
It started happening to me today as well.
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Yip started happening here too. Just wondering, most ads are somewhere between 10-15 seconds and a minute. How easy would it be to just mute pianobar during "songs" which are less than a minute long? Hacky, but wouldn't get you banned ;) |
I just got 20 ads in a row. I used to be able to skip 10 and it would start working again; but that doesn't seem to work any more. |
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or maybe skip the song rather than mute? |
My suggestion for muting was so that you wouldn't get banned.. |
Oh got it. Sure that works. |
Please note that adding this features is not just a technical decision, |
It's worth noting that, without having skipped any songs whatsoever (as has become practice for me, since I don't want it to start playing ads, especially since that causes my scrobbler script to scrobble songs I haven't listened to) ads started playing in place of the songs in one of my channels. Either something was odd on my end that gave away that I wasn't listening to ads, which I'm not sure what that would've been, or their detection has become more robust. |
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I rebased the ads branch on master. I ran pianobar for about 4.5 h (40 songs including 1 skip) and didn't get any ads, either disguised as songs or otherwise. This was my first pianobar usage in a while, but I am a rather heavy Pandora user. I do not have Pandora One. Does anyone still experience the ads disguised as songs issue? I wasn't experiencing ads disguised as songs, but I would like the option to support Pandora while using pianobar. |
Feel free to submit a pull request. Maybe we can get this into a mergeable state. |
@GrantMoyer I think it only used to happen to me after a couple days of playing. However I don't use pandora any more (they Geo-blocked Australia), so I'm unwatching this issue now. |
@PromyLOPh I've created a pull request for the rebased branch, #686. Since it's doesn't seem to make pianobar actually play ads, I've made it a draft. |
As of late ads have been playing in my Pianobar and it is using the name of the song that is next in the list to be played as the track title.
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