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Suggestion : Standalone Option #25

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9Octopus opened this issue Mar 17, 2023 · 3 comments
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Suggestion : Standalone Option #25

9Octopus opened this issue Mar 17, 2023 · 3 comments

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@9Octopus
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I love this mod, would it be possible to make it available without Pneumaticcraft?

@Lgmrszd
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Lgmrszd commented Mar 17, 2023

Was actually thinking about it (doing so would allow to bring mod over to Fabric for example) but this is literally bridge mod, not just another Create addon. I don't see it being any useful without PneumaticCraft. If you have ideas for standalone functionality though I'd like to know.

@9Octopus
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I believe it is useful! The upgraded blowing mechanics as well as the filters add depth to an already great mechanic in a way that makes perfect sense with the pneumatic theme! I have several ideas of features you could add as well that add depth and fit real life pneumatics!

  • Item Tubes

  • Entrance and Exit Filters : Push or Pull items into or out of the tube system if they match

  • Vacuum : Pull item entities and also pull items vertically into the item tube system, which the base Create is missing.

  • Pneumatic Cylinder : A new form of moving blocks

  • Pneumatic Arm : Like a mechanical arm but bigger! Allowing you to grab and place at greater distances

  • Water Log Blowers : Bubble columns in every direction

  • Tools : Using backtank;

  • Jackhammer : 5x5 vertical mining
  • Power Drill : 3x3 mining
  • Saw : Handheld tree chopper
  • Power Blower : 3x3 Shovel / Shears combined. Can be hillarious to use this on sheep lol
  • Handheld Vacuum : Pull entities towards you or reverse to blow them away
  • Engine : Manual rotation for machines

The possibilities extend even further with the use of pneumatic engines for vehicles added by Offroad and Aeronautics

@Lgmrszd
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Lgmrszd commented Jun 17, 2023

Sorry, was planning to get to this topic, but got sidetracked...
Your suggestions, while great, could be either something added to base Create, or to base PneumaticCraft, or implemented in standalone pneumatically-themed mod. I don't really like the idea of making some sort of content mod that has a hard dependency on other big content mod, because it might be a good mod by it's own.

As for ideas:

  • Item transportation in Create is great as it is. Vertical transport exists in form of Chutes with Fans, and IMO it's underused.
  • Vacuum already exists in PneumaticCraft in the form of Air Grate Tube Module.
  • Pneumatic Cylinder is basically Mechanical Piston but powered with Air Pressure. This is something already suggested, and I am thinking on adding this at one point.
  • Pneumatic Arm — Pneumatic Chestplate with Range Upgrade achieves almost the same thing. And Mechanical Arm by itself can be powered from Backtank, so it's pneumatic, in a way.
  • Directional bubble columns are not implemented in base Create, so I don't see why it should be implemented here. Also, what would that achieve? Encased Fans (and Air Blowers), when placed underwater, still produce Air Current, moving you along.

As for tools, these are neat ideas! But since they use Backtank, they could as well be just a separate Create Addon. You might suggest them to https://github.com/mrh0/createaddition, as it adds some curiosities to Create without particular theme, and does not require other mods. I might implement these as well if I decide to make another Create addon.

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