Krusha as DK: Can't jump in Mine Cart Ride, or move arms after attempting to jump

[teconmoon]

Describe the bug
If you attempt to push A to jump while Krusha as DK in the Jungle Japes Mine Cart Ride, Krusha fails to do so despite making a small jump animation. Additionally, once you've pressed A, you can no longer lean left/right to collect coins unless you restart the ride. If you do not push A at any point, you can lean left/right to collect coins.

To Reproduce
Steps to reproduce the behavior:

1. Spawn in the Jungle Japes Mine Cart Ride as Krusha over DK
2. Press A to attempt to jump
3. Observe Krusha not jumping and no longer able to lean

Expected behavior
During the Mine Cart Ride, I expected Krusha to be able to jump and to be able to lean left/right to grab coins.

Screenshots
Video of issue

Platform
RetroArch (1.22.2) /w Mupen64Plus-Next (Latest)

Files
All Requested Files: dk64r-patch-298230.zip

Additional context
Modified Hell Mode preset. The seed spawns in the Igloo Area (DK) of Crystal Caves. Take the following path to reach the Mine Cart Ride:

• Crystal Caves Igloo Area (DK): Leave area through door
• Gloomy Galleon 5 Door Ship (Lanky): Leave area through door
• Fungi Forest Mills (Spider Boss): Exit level from pause menu
• Frantic Factory Lobby: Re-Enter B.Locker level portal
• Frantic Factory R&D Race Track: Exit Level from pause menu
• Jungle Japes Lobby: Re-Enter B.Locker level portal
• Gloomy Galleon Shipyard Outskirts (Tiny): Leave area through door

[theballaam96]

Thanks for the bug report. DK64 tends to get pretty weird about other kongs being in minecart rides they're not intended to be in. I don't recall the exact combo, but I know there's one in the vanilla game which produces similarly buggy behavior

That being said, I want to say that this shouldn't be in logic to beat the Japes minecart ride as DK?

[theballaam96]

We could resolve this by making minecart behavior tied to the kong rather than the map. This would mean that both Japes and Fungi minecarts would not be beatable as DK regardless because DK cannot lean whilst he is in the cart in castle minecart

[AlmostSeagull]

Thanks for the bug report. DK64 tends to get pretty weird about other kongs being in minecart rides they're not intended to be in. I don't recall the exact combo, but I know there's one in the vanilla game which produces similarly buggy behavior

That being said, I want to say that this shouldn't be in logic to beat the Japes minecart ride as DK?

Can confirm that it's out of logic if you aren't Diddy.

[teconmoon]

Thanks all, I noticed Squawks called out that the reward was a junk item, but good to know that was intentional and not dumb luck. I'm pretty new to this randomizer, so my brain jumped to Krusha being part of the issue when really Krusha vs DK was probably irrelevant.

[teconmoon]

We could resolve this by making minecart behavior tied to the kong rather than the map. This would mean that both Japes and Fungi minecarts would not be beatable as DK regardless because DK cannot lean whilst he is in the cart in castle minecart

I used the practice ROM to test each Kong in each Mine Cart Ride and found the following:

Jungle Japes: (Normally Diddy, cart doesn't lean or jump with Kong)

• DK: Unable to jump, lean, or duck
• Lanky: Able to jump, lean, duck, and activate levers
• Tiny: Able to jump, lean, and duck. She can't activate levers
• Chunky: Can lean, duck, and activate levers, unless you try jumping (Like Krusha in this issue)

Fungi Forest: (Normally Chunky, cart leans and jumps with Kong)

• DK: Able to jump, lean the cart, duck, and activate some (but not all) levers as he doesn't actually stick out his arms
• Diddy: Able to jump, lean, duck, and activate levers
• Lanky: Able to jump, lean, duck, and activate levers
• Tiny: Able to jump, lean, and duck. She can't activate levers

Creepy Castle: (Normally DK, cart jumps with Kong and lean is used to hop from track to track. No levers)

• Diddy/Lanky/Tiny/Chunky: All able to jump up, hop between tracks, and duck. All stick their arms out when hopping tracks

Based on this, depending how granular things can get, if the Jungle Japes Mine Cart behavior was ditched entirely in favor of the Fungi Forest behavior, I wonder if that would give DK & Chunky/Krusha a fighting chance without breaking other things.

[UmedMuzl]

The right eye isn't a minecart issue, but rather an issue with the kong cosmetics on the practice rom